SUPERMAN: Who's Your Creative Dream Team!?

Eternal_E · September 2016

For years it's always been said that Superman is one of the hardest characters to write for. "He's boring, he's a boy scout, he's too powerful, his rogues gallery sucks..." Etc . I disagree. Left in competent hands and good editorial, any character can be the focal point of a good story. I think Tomasi/Gleason are doing great on Superman right now, but if you could pick an artist/writer team aside from Tomasi and Gleason, who would it be?

I would love to see an omnibus length run by Mark Waid and Ryan Ottley. With occasional guest art by Greg Capullo

Mr_Cosmic · September 2016

I agree 100% about Tomasi and Gleason.

My dream writer would be Jonathan Hickman. I'd love to see him writing a DC book and I think he could do amazing things with Superman. I'm less certain when it comes to an artist. There are some people I'd love to see drawing Superman but a lot of who I'd pick would be determined by the tone of the story Hickman would tell.

luke52 · September 2016

Henry Cavill and Zach Snyder ;)

nweathington · September 2016

I like the Hickman idea. Similarly, I'm going to go outside the box and pick Brandon Graham as my writer. If he can make Prophet interesting, he can certainly make Superman interesting. And I'll pick José Luis García-López as my artist to keep things relatable for the older fans. That may seem like an odd pairing, but I think they would work pretty well together.

Brack · September 2016

Jerry Seinfeld and Akira Toriyama.

Both love Superman, both have big name value outside the typical Superman comic reader.

This might seem like a joke answer, but I am deadly serious about wanting to see such a comic.

Eternal_E · September 2016

Mr_Cosmic said:
I agree 100% about Tomasi and Gleason.

My dream writer would be Jonathan Hickman. I'd love to see him writing a DC book and I think he could do amazing things with Superman. I'm less certain when it comes to an artist. There are some people I'd love to see drawing Superman but a lot of who I'd pick would be determined by the tone of the story Hickman would tell.

I think you on to something there... He could make it real interesting with the all the possibilities coming out of a fortress of solitude. People forget that although Superman is naive, he's also genius.

Eternal_E · September 2016

Brack said:
Jerry Seinfeld and Akira Toriyama.

Both love Superman, both have big name value outside the typical Superman comic reader.

This might seem like a joke answer, but I am deadly serious about wanting to see such a comic.

I'd read it

luke52 · September 2016

I'd like to see a written and drawn ogn from Jeff Lemire. Think he could do some awesome stuff with the character.

nweathington · September 2016

luke52 said:
I'd like to see a written and drawn ogn from Jeff Lemire. Think he could do some awesome stuff with the character.

Jeff would probably do a take on one of the Silver Age “imaginary stories” like the one where Superman ends up in the far future where the Sun has become a red sun so he loses his powers and can’t get back home—except he’d do it IN CONTINUITY!

bralinator · September 2016

Eternal_E said:
if you could pick an artist/writer team aside from Tomasi and Gleason, who would it be?

Bob Haney with art by George Tuska & Vince Colletta

luke52 · September 2016

nweathington said:

luke52 said:
I'd like to see a written and drawn ogn from Jeff Lemire. Think he could do some awesome stuff with the character.
Jeff would probably do a take on one of the Silver Age “imaginary stories” like the one where Superman ends up in the far future where the Sun has become a red sun so he loses his powers and can’t get back home—except he’d do it IN CONTINUITY!

And it would be awesome!

nweathington · September 2016

bralinator said:

Eternal_E said:
if you could pick an artist/writer team aside from Tomasi and Gleason, who would it be?
Bob Haney with art by George Tuska & Vince Colletta

Might be tough to get work out of those guys, but otherwise I like it. :smile:

SolitaireRose · September 2016

bralinator said:

Eternal_E said:
if you could pick an artist/writer team aside from Tomasi and Gleason, who would it be?
Bob Haney with art by George Tuska & Vince Colletta

And I would never ever read it.

SolitaireRose · September 2016

I think this Superman proposal should have been put in place.

Mark Miller, Grant Morrison, Mark Waid and Tom Peyer.

bralinator · September 2016

SolitaireRose said:

bralinator said:

Eternal_E said:
if you could pick an artist/writer team aside from Tomasi and Gleason, who would it be?
Bob Haney with art by George Tuska & Vince Colletta

And I would never ever read it.

That's too bad. You may have missed out on a lot of entertaining bronze-age stories, Cory, but thank-you for adding to the lightheartedness of the discussion.

Brack · September 2016

SolitaireRose said:
I think this Superman proposal should have been put in place.

Mark Miller, Grant Morrison, Mark Waid and Tom Peyer.

That would have changed comics (and probably film) history. Think how many awful Millar books we'd have been spared if he'd been writing the good Superman comics we knew he could write back then.

nweathington · September 2016

SolitaireRose said:

bralinator said:

Eternal_E said:
if you could pick an artist/writer team aside from Tomasi and Gleason, who would it be?
Bob Haney with art by George Tuska & Vince Colletta

And I would never ever read it.

That’s it. I'm writing you out of my will.

RickM · September 2016

Grant Morrison and Frank Quitely and they should call it All-Star Superman and publish it in 2005.

[Deleted User] · September 2016

Kurt Busiek and Eric Powell.

Greg · September 2016

I would have loved to have seen a Mantlo/Buscema run.

bralinator · September 2016

Greg said:
I would have loved to have seen a Mantlo/Buscema run.

If we could get them from their hey-day, I like that also.

In fact, if we could pick any era in time, then I would also like to see Jack Kirby's Superman (written & drawn unretouched!)

Along with unearthed tales by...

+ Steve Englehart & Michael Golden
+ Archie Goodwin & Walt Simonson
+ Roger Stern & George Perez
+ Cary Bates & Jim Cockrum
+ Alan Moore & Art Adams
+ Neil Gaman & P. Craig Russell

SolitaireRose · September 2016

nweathington said:

SolitaireRose said:

bralinator said:

Eternal_E said:
if you could pick an artist/writer team aside from Tomasi and Gleason, who would it be?
Bob Haney with art by George Tuska & Vince Colletta

And I would never ever read it.
That’s it. I'm writing you out of my will.

If I have to read something by Vince Colletta of my own free will to inherit your money...you can keep it. I have no use for The Living Eraser.

SolitaireRose · September 2016

bralinator said:

SolitaireRose said:

bralinator said:

Eternal_E said:
if you could pick an artist/writer team aside from Tomasi and Gleason, who would it be?
Bob Haney with art by George Tuska & Vince Colletta

And I would never ever read it.

That's too bad. You may have missed out on a lot of entertaining bronze-age stories, Cory, but thank-you for adding to the lightheartedness of the discussion.

Hmm...wonder how much of that picture didn't get inked because Vince only spent 90 minutes on a page. ^_^

nweathington · September 2016

SolitaireRose said:

bralinator said:

SolitaireRose said:

bralinator said:

Eternal_E said:
if you could pick an artist/writer team aside from Tomasi and Gleason, who would it be?
Bob Haney with art by George Tuska & Vince Colletta

And I would never ever read it.

That's too bad. You may have missed out on a lot of entertaining bronze-age stories, Cory, but thank-you for adding to the lightheartedness of the discussion.

Hmm...wonder how much of that picture didn't get inked because Vince only spent 90 minutes on a page. ^_^

None! That cover was penciled and inked by Jim Aparo. :smiley:

nweathington · September 2016

SolitaireRose said:

nweathington said:

SolitaireRose said:

bralinator said:

Eternal_E said:
if you could pick an artist/writer team aside from Tomasi and Gleason, who would it be?
Bob Haney with art by George Tuska & Vince Colletta

And I would never ever read it.
That’s it. I'm writing you out of my will.
If I have to read something by Vince Colletta of my own free will to inherit your money...you can keep it. I have no use for The Living Eraser.

Well, to be honest, you weren’t getting any cash. I was only going to leave you the comics in my collection inked by Colletta.

SolitaireRose · September 2016

nweathington said:

SolitaireRose said:

nweathington said:

SolitaireRose said:

bralinator said:

Eternal_E said:
if you could pick an artist/writer team aside from Tomasi and Gleason, who would it be?
Bob Haney with art by George Tuska & Vince Colletta

And I would never ever read it.
That’s it. I'm writing you out of my will.
If I have to read something by Vince Colletta of my own free will to inherit your money...you can keep it. I have no use for The Living Eraser.
Well, to be honest, you weren’t getting any cash. I was only going to leave you the comics in my collection inked by Colletta.

I know a SINGLE hard core Kirby fan who liked his work on Thor.

Nothing tops the story I heard about Ditko. Ditko would come in to drop off work, and he would be left a bundle of everything Marvel had published so he could keep up on things, and he would take any comic inked by Colletta, go into Stan office and put it in the garbage can so that Stan would see he'd done so.

nweathington · September 2016

SolitaireRose said:
I know a SINGLE hard core Kirby fan who liked his work on Thor.

I know a few. The Kirby Collector readers are pretty divided on it. A lot of them feel the quality of Colletta’s fine line fit the fantasy elements of the book, and I think there’s some merit to that argument. Of course, no one likes the shortcuts Colletta took. Though I have to say that I have seen instances where Colletta’s eliminating a background element actually helped the composition of a panel. But then, it wasn’t his job to act as art director.

But to not read a Bob Haney/George Tuska production just because of li’l ol’ Vinnie? Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water, man!

SolitaireRose · September 2016

nweathington said:

SolitaireRose said:
I know a SINGLE hard core Kirby fan who liked his work on Thor.
I know a few. The Kirby Collector readers are pretty divided on it. A lot of them feel the quality of Colletta’s fine line fit the fantasy elements of the book, and I think there’s some merit to that argument. Of course, no one likes the shortcuts Colletta took. Though I have to say that I have seen instances where Colletta’s eliminating a background element actually helped the composition of a panel. But then, it wasn’t his job to act as art director.

But to not read a Bob Haney/George Tuska production just because of li’l ol’ Vinnie? Don’t throw the baby out with the bath water, man!

Haney's stuff rubs me the wrong way. I think you have to read it as a kid to have a fondness for it. And I have seen a LOT of Tuska's art ruined by Vinnie. He made his work flat, got rid of the facial expressions and gave every woman the same face.

[Deleted User] · September 2016

Look up some of Colletta's romance stuff.. dazzling. I understand the divided opinions, though.

ChrisBeckett · September 2016

Mark Waid writing. From what he did with the Flash back in the day (my favorite superhero and one of my favorite runs of that character) to his recent work on Daredevil, Waid brings the fun and adventure to his comics writing that engages me. And after listening to a podcast with him years back (I think it was with Art & Franco) where he discussed his thoughts about Superman and what makes him tick and how best to approach him, as a character, I know he'd do some great things with this.

On the art side --- Bill Sienkiewicz. Love, love, love his work. And with him drawing Superman, you know it would be a feast for the eyes.

-chris

jaydee74 · September 2016

I love the current team of Tomasi and Gleason. They work well together. I also loved the team of Geoff Johns and Gary Frank. I'd like to see Mark Waid write Superman. He so gets the history of the character he's writing and I've been a fan of just about everything he does. For the artist, I'd like to see Phil Jiminez. I've always been a fan of his art and I think they could make a great Superman book.

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