Kevin Conroy as Batman Kevin McKidd as post-Flashpoint Batman Michael B. Jordan as Cyborg Cary Elwes as Aquaman Vanessa Marshall as Wonder Woman Nathan Fillion as Green Lantern Justin Chambers as Flash C. Thomas Howell as Professor Zoom Sam Daly as Superman Ron Perlman as Slade Wilson Danny Huston as General Lane Dana Delany as Lois Lane
This looks good but I do wish we could start getting other DC character's for movies other then Batman & Superman & every now & then a Justice League. I wish we could get old school Teen Titans or Geoff Johns TT. Or Doctor Fate,Green Arrow,Buster Gold. Something other than Sup's & Batman.
This looks good but I do wish we could start getting other DC character's for movies other then Batman & Superman & every now & then a Justice League. I wish we could get old school Teen Titans or Geoff Johns TT. Or Doctor Fate,Green Arrow,Buster Gold. Something other than Sup's & Batman.
I agree, but it won't happen. They're gong with the best known and most marketable characters in the stable, where they know they're going to get a decent return for the investment. (Sales, that is.)
That's why I appreciate those Showcase extras they'd been including on some releases, which give the other heroes a chance to get animated.
I hope they will have some Showcase extras on at least one of these two DVD's. I haven't had a chance to pick up Dark Knight Returns yet. Did that have a showcase extra short on either of the parts?
I hope they will have some Showcase extras on at least one of these two DVD's. I haven't had a chance to pick up Dark Knight Returns yet. Did that have a showcase extra short on either of the parts?
No. The last one to have a short was Batman: Year One.
I know it's probably just me, but I'm a bit burned out on the "house" style for DC Animation. Has anyone seen the Superman Classic fan film? I would really enjoy something done in that style.
I don't know. I honestly don't think the audience would go for a drastic change in animation style. One of the main complaints about Superman vs The Elite was the character designs and animation. It was very different from the other films and more cartoony. From what I've read, people didn't like it. They found it off-putting and unattractive/unappealing.
Maybe I'm too young, but I'm personally not a fan of "old-style" or classic animation. The style of animation used in Superman Classic would be a turnoff for me. I can't speak for anyone else, though.
War is based on the first arc of the New 52 Justice League series, Son of Batman is based on Grant Morrison's Batman and Son storyline and Assault on Arkham is rumored to be based on the Arkham games.
Well, looks like the final nail in the coffin has been hammered. The DCAU films were the only way DC was getting my money and it seems even that has finally come to an end. Ironically, Flashpoint was the last straw in the comics and now, again, for the DVDs.
I'm interested in getting the Flashpoint dvd, but I have to admit the newly announced projects really don't interest me. I'd rather they started looking at the lesser used properties (Doom Patrol or Adam Strange anyone?) or else try looking at doing an original storyline. Heck, by the time most of these adaptations get to screen, they're essentially new stories anyway.
The Arkham one seems mildly interesting, but I'd like to see older stories done, not the current big sellers. If you do Batman, give me A Lonely Place Of Dying as a tie-in with Under the Red Hood, or better yet, Batman & the Outsiders. Flash-wise, give Chain Lightning or the Return of Barry Allen.
I'm interested in getting the Flashpoint dvd, but I have to admit the newly announced projects really don't interest me. I'd rather they started looking at the lesser used properties (Doom Patrol or Adam Strange anyone?) or else try looking at doing an original storyline. Heck, by the time most of these adaptations get to screen, they're essentially new stories anyway.
Unfortunately, that's not going to happen. WB execs have made no secret of the fact that they really only have faith in Superman and Batman. And while Bruce Timm and James Tucker haven't explicitly said it, they have let us know the higher ups only want them making animated films that star the two or at least have them in a major role. So we're pretty much only going to get Superman, Batman and Justice League films.
James Tucker recently said Flashpoint was a "sneaky" way to get around that. He would like to introduce some of the other characters to the audience and his idea is to pick the properties and stories that also feature characters is secondary or supporting roles. That allows them to make films that feature Batman and Superman, but also showcase the other heroes people want to see.
I doubt you're going to see any original stories, but you may see stories you're familiar with be given a new spin. Tucker also said he's not entirely a fan of literal translations, which we've more or less seen in these films leading up to this point. They're using Flashpoint to switch things up, go in different directions and not just be direct animated adaptations of the comics. They're taking cues from the New 52, but not actually making movies based on the New 52 (besides War). Tucker is looking to change the look of the animated movies regarding the animation style, as well as how they tell their stories. He said they were looking to push them further.
His statements seem to be reflected in The Flashpoint Paradox. In terms of the animation style, it's completely different from any of the other films. It's almost completely anime influenced.
In terms of pushing the films further, at least in terms of content, this one is darker than the other films. That makes sense because it's an Earth gone wrong story and the whole point is that it's worse than the regular timeline. This is probably the first DC animated movie you probably don't want to show the kids because it is the most violent of the releases. Characters get shot in the face, impaled, have limbs severed and you also see someone holding a severed head.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to the new direction and what Tucker plans to do with the future films. Sure, I'd like to see adaptations of other lead characters. There won't be any DC live action films for at least 2 more years and Beware the Batman and Teen Titans Go! are the only animated series for the foreseeable future. It's a lot of Batman, but if one wants DC stories outside of the comics and they're not feeling TTG (I'm not) or Beware the Batman (I am), this is what we've got.
I'm interested in getting the Flashpoint dvd, but I have to admit the newly announced projects really don't interest me. I'd rather they started looking at the lesser used properties (Doom Patrol or Adam Strange anyone?) or else try looking at doing an original storyline. Heck, by the time most of these adaptations get to screen, they're essentially new stories anyway.
Unfortunately, that's not going to happen. WB execs have made no secret of the fact that they really only have faith in Superman and Batman. And while Bruce Timm and James Tucker haven't explicitly said it, they have let us know the higher ups only want them making animated films that star the two or at least have them in a major role. So we're pretty much only going to get Superman, Batman and Justice League films.
Yeah, I already assumed that a long time ago. That's too bad, because I think they're limiting themselves. They have literally thousands of properties to exploit and they're going to limit themselves to just two or three. They have absolutely no faith in what they have.
I doubt you're going to see any original stories, but you may see stories you're familiar with be given a new spin. Tucker also said he's not entirely a fan of literal translations, which we've more or less seen in these films leading up to this point. They're using Flashpoint to switch things up, go in different directions and not just be direct animated adaptations of the comics. They're taking cues from the New 52, but not actually making movies based on the New 52 (besides War). Tucker is looking to change the look of the animated movies regarding the animation style, as well as how they tell their stories. He said they were looking to push them further.
Which just makes it less likely that I'm going to pick any of them up. I want a direct adaptation, and I'm only disappointed when they don't hew as close as they possibly can. And I'm not crazy about changing the look of the animation style either; I thought the 'Timmverse' look worked quite well and lent a great deal of internal conformity to the series. The further they depart from that, the less appealing the work is.
(There are exceptions to that, of course -- works that are based on sources with a strong art style to begin with, such as Darwyn Cooke's New Frontier or the Frank Miller Batman: Year One stories, work quite well. And, I note, hew closer to the original stories as well, which also made these work.)
His statements seem to be reflected in The Flashpoint Paradox. In terms of the animation style, it's completely different from any of the other films. It's almost completely anime influenced.
I've not read Tiny Titans, but if you've seen the Teen Titans Go shorts from previous seasons of the DC Nation, that is pretty much it. All they've done is expand it to a full half hour. Not my cup of tea. Beware The Batman is the only thing from DC that I have anything to do with now ... until Cartoon Network decides to cancel it like they did Green Lantern and Young Justice.
So will the entire DC animated universe be rebooted after "flashpoint"?
I was kind of right. Self high five! No more good cartoons. X(
I still need to pick up and see the Dark Knight Returns (I am waiting for the eventual combo pack with both parts). After that i think I am done.
I am not sure if I want to go the CGI direction and I do not want any new 52 cartoons. Is Teen Titans Go in the vein of the Tiny Titans comic book?
Is it really, though? Two of the three of the newly announced titles are set in pre-New 52 continuities. I think they are continuing to go after stories that worked for a lot of people, and adapt those. I don't think they actually care whether Batman and Son came before the New 52, or that the Arkham story might come out of the video games. I doubt they see any need to draw a New 52 sort of line in the sand for these animated properties. I think they just keep looking back at what is left form the list of stories that performed.
So will the entire DC animated universe be rebooted after "flashpoint"?
I was kind of right. Self high five! No more good cartoons. X(
I still need to pick up and see the Dark Knight Returns (I am waiting for the eventual combo pack with both parts). After that i think I am done.
I am not sure if I want to go the CGI direction and I do not want any new 52 cartoons. Is Teen Titans Go in the vein of the Tiny Titans comic book?
I think they are continuing to go after stories that worked for a lot of people, and adapt those.
Your faith is admirable. I just hope it is not misguided.
I don't know that I would call it faith, it is just my observation, based on what they've made in the past. I don't think they see these animated features as having to be loyal in any way to what is going on in the comics they are contemporary to. Nor should they. And they haven't limited themself by creating an animation continuity that they have to stick to with these features. As that has worked for them in the past, I don't see why they would get all continuity heavy and beholden to the New 52 now.
Especially as there have been few New 52 stories popular enough yet to be a hook.
Sure, they will likely do a Court of Owls feature, but I don't think they will see that as preventing them from adapting a pre-New 52 story later. It is all fodder on the table to be considered.
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Kevin Conroy as Batman
Kevin McKidd as post-Flashpoint Batman
Michael B. Jordan as Cyborg
Cary Elwes as Aquaman
Vanessa Marshall as Wonder Woman
Nathan Fillion as Green Lantern
Justin Chambers as Flash
C. Thomas Howell as Professor Zoom
Sam Daly as Superman
Ron Perlman as Slade Wilson
Danny Huston as General Lane
Dana Delany as Lois Lane
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That's why I appreciate those Showcase extras they'd been including on some releases, which give the other heroes a chance to get animated.
M.
Also, the box art for the film reveals the next film is will possibly be called Justice League: War.
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Maybe I'm too young, but I'm personally not a fan of "old-style" or classic animation. The style of animation used in Superman Classic would be a turnoff for me. I can't speak for anyone else, though.
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War is based on the first arc of the New 52 Justice League series, Son of Batman is based on Grant Morrison's Batman and Son storyline and Assault on Arkham is rumored to be based on the Arkham games.
M
James Tucker recently said Flashpoint was a "sneaky" way to get around that. He would like to introduce some of the other characters to the audience and his idea is to pick the properties and stories that also feature characters is secondary or supporting roles. That allows them to make films that feature Batman and Superman, but also showcase the other heroes people want to see.
I doubt you're going to see any original stories, but you may see stories you're familiar with be given a new spin. Tucker also said he's not entirely a fan of literal translations, which we've more or less seen in these films leading up to this point. They're using Flashpoint to switch things up, go in different directions and not just be direct animated adaptations of the comics. They're taking cues from the New 52, but not actually making movies based on the New 52 (besides War). Tucker is looking to change the look of the animated movies regarding the animation style, as well as how they tell their stories. He said they were looking to push them further.
His statements seem to be reflected in The Flashpoint Paradox. In terms of the animation style, it's completely different from any of the other films. It's almost completely anime influenced.
In terms of pushing the films further, at least in terms of content, this one is darker than the other films. That makes sense because it's an Earth gone wrong story and the whole point is that it's worse than the regular timeline. This is probably the first DC animated movie you probably don't want to show the kids because it is the most violent of the releases. Characters get shot in the face, impaled, have limbs severed and you also see someone holding a severed head.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to the new direction and what Tucker plans to do with the future films. Sure, I'd like to see adaptations of other lead characters. There won't be any DC live action films for at least 2 more years and Beware the Batman and Teen Titans Go! are the only animated series for the foreseeable future. It's a lot of Batman, but if one wants DC stories outside of the comics and they're not feeling TTG (I'm not) or Beware the Batman (I am), this is what we've got.
(There are exceptions to that, of course -- works that are based on sources with a strong art style to begin with, such as Darwyn Cooke's New Frontier or the Frank Miller Batman: Year One stories, work quite well. And, I note, hew closer to the original stories as well, which also made these work.) Oh, now I'm really out the door.
I still need to pick up and see the Dark Knight Returns (I am waiting for the eventual combo pack with both parts). After that i think I am done.
I am not sure if I want to go the CGI direction and I do not want any new 52 cartoons. Is Teen Titans Go in the vein of the Tiny Titans comic book?
Thanks DC, you're saving me lots of money. Good luck getting all those NEW (never read a comic) readers!
M
Especially as there have been few New 52 stories popular enough yet to be a hook.
Sure, they will likely do a Court of Owls feature, but I don't think they will see that as preventing them from adapting a pre-New 52 story later. It is all fodder on the table to be considered.