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Adobe to move all of its Creative Suite applications to a $49.99/month cloud based format.

Fade2BlackFade2Black Posts: 1,457
Thoughts?
I really hate the notion of having to be online to use Photoshop, or to be tied into a $49/month Creative Suite commitment (there's a 40% price break for the first year for registered Adobe CS3 or later users). This just reeks of cell. phone and cable pricing, which are payment models I wholeheartedly despise.

http://www.iclarified.com/29809/adobe-discontinues-standalone-applications-moves-to-subscription-only-model



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xADqehaGh2A

Comments

  • Chuck_MelvilleChuck_Melville Posts: 3,003
    Ye-a-ah... that has to rank as one of the stupidest moves I've ever heard. I'm currently using CS2 and I now have no reason whatsoever to ever want to upgrade. Who the hell can afford 49 bucks a month just for a graphics program? If anything, I'd now be moved to look around for a pirated version of a standalone. Or go to a competitor, like Gimp.

    Stupid, stupid Adobe.
  • Fade2BlackFade2Black Posts: 1,457
    edited May 2013
    A stand-alone application is $19.99/ month. The Suite is $49.99/month.
    But still, the model blows. What really bugs me is that the video seems to imply that once a new version is released the old one will cease working after one year from the date that new version is released.

    As for a reason to upgrade, yeah I'm with you there, but Adobe has stated publicly that all updates to future Adobe products will address bugs only. I take that to mean that if a computer's OS is upgraded they won't be going out of their way to make old software compatible with future operating systems. In other words time will eventually force people to buy into their new model.
  • kgforcekgforce Posts: 326
    I'm pretty ticked off about this. I use PhotoShop/Illustrator/InDesign/Dreamweaver... and I usually upgrade every other version. The perpetual fee is not appealing to me, at all.
  • nweathingtonnweathington Posts: 6,748
    If they were offering the Suite at $15/month, maybe even $20/month, I might would go along with it. As it is, I'll use CS5 for as long as I can and then find something else. I’m sure their competition will have surpassed them by then anyway. Maybe this is an opportunity for Quark Xpress to become relevant again.
  • jaydee74jaydee74 Posts: 1,526
    That sounds......terrible. I have CS5 right now for the creative suite and I got that when I took some continuing education classes at SVA so I got a good deal. Yeah. The fact that you have to be online to even use this is just bad but the monthly fee doesn't do it for me whatsoever. Not a smart move in my opinion.
  • TorchsongTorchsong Posts: 2,794
    Now is the time for some upstart company to step up and say "You HAVE options, people..."
  • jaydee74jaydee74 Posts: 1,526
    Yup. Hopefully that will happen to put Adobe on notice that this kind of stuff doesn't fly.
  • AxelBrassAxelBrass Posts: 245
    Sounds like I'm sticking with CS5
  • Fade2BlackFade2Black Posts: 1,457
    jaydee74 said:

    That sounds......terrible. I have CS5 right now for the creative suite and I got that when I took some continuing education classes at SVA so I got a good deal. Yeah. The fact that you have to be online to even use this is just bad but the monthly fee doesn't do it for me whatsoever. Not a smart move in my opinion.

    One only needs to be online once a month to use it for monthly subscribers, or once every 180 days for annual subscribers, but I agree month-to-month doesn't do it for me either.
  • SolitaireRoseSolitaireRose Posts: 1,445
    2014 News story: Adobe files for bankruptcy, has no idea why people switched to other graphics programs...
  • LibraryBoyLibraryBoy Posts: 1,803
    edited May 2013
    I like the basic idea of it - I had to use Adobe CS for my web design class last semester via my grad school's Citrix server/virtual lab, so the idea of using a cloud-based Photoshop and Illustrator is actually kinda natural to me now - but that pricing scheme is pretty terrible, and if your internet connection is slow, that could lead to some fairly draggy and problematic user experience.
  • Fade2BlackFade2Black Posts: 1,457
    edited May 2013

    I like the basic idea of it - I had to use Adobe CS for my web design class last semester via my grad school's Citrix server/virtual lab, so the idea of using a cloud-based Photoshop and Illustrator is actually kinda natural to me now - but that pricing scheme is pretty terrible, and if your internet connection is slow, that could lead to some fairly draggy and problematic user experience.

    Watch the video. It specifically states that you download the software to your computer. I got the impression the network connection is primarily needed to validate that the program's dues are paid, verify that the program isn't running on more computers than it's authorized to, and for cloud storage/retrieval of documents. What I see as being the biggest flaw in this payment scheme is the requirement that one needs to update to the current version within one year of the latest version's release. Adobe makes no guarantees that a new version will be compatible with older operating systems. Let's say they release a version that isn't compatible with your current OS or hardware. Okay, not a big deal right? You'll just keep the working version that you have, but a year later that version ceases to work and suddenly you're stuck with having to upgrade (or in some cases replace) your computer just to use Photoshop.
  • Mr_CosmicMr_Cosmic Posts: 3,200
    edited May 2013
    Wont this push more people towards piracy? Photoshop is one of the most pirated apps out there because of the price and a recurring fee isn't going to help matters.
  • PlaneisPlaneis Posts: 980

    Thoughts?
    I really hate the notion of having to be online to use Photoshop, or to be tied into a $49/month Creative Suite commitment (there's a 40% price break for the first year for registered Adobe CS3 or later users). This just reeks of cell. phone and cable pricing, which are payment models I wholeheartedly despise.

    http://www.iclarified.com/29809/adobe-discontinues-standalone-applications-moves-to-subscription-only-model



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xADqehaGh2A

    quick! everyone go buy ye olde timey photoshop!
  • Fade2BlackFade2Black Posts: 1,457
    Mr_Cosmic said:

    Wont this push more people towards piracy? Photoshop is one of the most pirated apps out there because of the price and a recurring fee isn't going to help matters.

    Here's what I predict will occur:
    1. Sales of the non-month-to-month versions of Photoshop will likely spike.

    2. Pirated versions of Photoshop will likely remain about the same (though I suppose the same incentive for the surge in legit sales may also fuel an increase in pirated copies as well).

    3. Adobe will ensure that the next major OS upgrade won't be backwards compatible with older Creative Suite versions. In other words, those who buy new hardware and wish to run Adobe's Creative Suite will be forced to buy into Adobe's monthly/annual payment plans. Piracy will become more difficult for Adobe's new software will require periodic check-ins and more specific device recognition.

    4. Alternative software, such as the free Gimp will gain new converts. The problem is, many of Adobe's more popular features are patented. Case in point: clicking on my "About Photoshop (CS3)" menu item yielded the following patents.

    Protected by U.S. Patents 4,667,247; 4,837,613; 5,050,103; 5,146,346; 5,185,818; 5,200,740; 5,233,336; 5,237,313; 5,255,357; 5,546,528; 5,625,711; 5,634,064; 5,729,637; 5,737,599; 5,754,873; 5,781,785; 5,808,623; 5,819,278; 5,819,301; 5,832,530; 5,832,531; 5,835,634; 5,860,074; 5,870,091; 5,905,506; 5,929,866; 5,930,813; 5,943,063; 5,974,198; 5,995,086; 5,999,649; 6,023,264; 6,025,850; 6,028,583; 6,049,339; 6,072,502; 6,073,148; 6,084,684; 6,100,904; 6,185,342; 6,205,549; 6,208,351; 6,269,196; 6,275,587; 6,289,364; 6,298,157; 6,313,824; 6,324,555; 6,337,925; 6,357,038; 6,385,350; 6,396,959; 6,408,092; 6,411,730; 6,411,742; 6,415,278; 6,421,460; 6,434,269; 6,456,297; 6,466,210; 6,507,848; 6,515,675; 6,563,502; 6,563,509; 6,587,592; 6,604,105; 6,606,166; 6,639,593; 6,701,023; 6,711,557; 6,720,997; 6,721,446; 6,728,398; 6,748,111; 6,754,382; 6,771,816; 6,775,821; 6,785,866; 6,791,573; 6,803,923; 6,825,852; 6,842,786; 6,844,882; 6,857,105; 6,862,102; 6,865,301; 6,894,704; 6,934,909; 6,970,169; 6,983,074; 7,002,597; 7,006,107; 7,006,707; 7,042,467; 7,071,948; 7,088,375; patents pending

    Even if software alternatives exist, they won't be able to emulate many of the features so many people are accustomed to simply because the technology is patented.
  • nweathingtonnweathington Posts: 6,748
    Speaking of patents, there’s this from Apple.
  • jaydee74jaydee74 Posts: 1,526

    Speaking of patents, there’s this from Apple.

    It honestly makes a lot of sense for Apple to be thinking about that. I use those programs plus InDesign so it would only be in Apple's best interest to begin thinking about maybe making these programs to bring people more choices. I'm pretty sure I would check out Apple's versions of Photoshop and Illustrator.
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