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Episode 1386 Talkback: Man of Steel Movie Review
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Superman is back on the big screen in a big way, and having borne witness to the super-spectacle, a group of Geeks (including lost son of CGS Kevin Moyer!) share their impressions of 'Man of Steel.' Listen as we train our heat vision on the cast of characters, the new costume, the narrative structure, the somber tone, the already infamous Superman/Zod climactic clash, and a host of other topics relating to the blockbuster film. (1:20:18)
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BTW: Kevin; you gave a mentioned to the black and silver; you do know that the black and silver suit was in MOS, right? When Clark is in that dream with Zod, and he is then shown with his costume, its a black and silver variant of his suit. Its been confirmed from the making of art book, and a clearer image of the scene where he is being buried shows that the suit isn't blue, but black. If you didn't realize that, well you are seeing it again, right?
Loved, loved, loved this film. My main reason for loving it was to finally see Superman unleash. We've NEVER seen him actually fight on this level of intensity. The visual effects are executed perfectly. I agree that it wasn't filled with much humor, but maybe they consciously made that decision to keep the tone more serious and distance it from the Donner films, especially the bad ones, 3 and 4 (but I think Donner was out of the picture by then). Yeah, the destruction of Metropolis was a bit much but that just goes to show you that Superman is still just one guy and can only be in one place at a time and that there is a real need for a Justice League. The suit took some getting used to but on the whole it was okay. The Zod kill was jarring and struck me as out of character, but then Murd and Matt reminded me that Byrne's version did indeed kill off the Kryptonians by de-powering them and exposing them to Kryptonite. Another reason I loved it is that Lex wasn't in this — as he always annoys the hell out of me — but I'm glad they referenced Lexcorp. A cool after-the-credits scene would have been to show Lex (just the back of his head) and the President surveying the damage of Metropolis. Maybe the President could say how they now need to create contingencies to contain "the alien," and we would just hear Lex say; "Leave that to me."
M
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/06/16/david-goyer-man-of-steel-interview-what-nolan-did-what-marvel-do-and-where-it-all-came-from/
Also, let's not forget that this wasn't two dudes setting out to make a little Superman movie. This movie was FAST tracked into production in order to retain licenses over the character and his origin story. Hence, the comments concerning disjointed editing.
I said something about people's experience about 9/11? Uhhh. No. But thanks for playing. :)
M
However the argument presented by Matt on your behalf is that people have no right to complain about the violence in this movie if they weren't disturbed by the violence in Superman II, JLU and Superman: Doomsday. If the violence in Superman II is less because of the era, how can you justify that argument? Cartoons "get a pass" because the visuals have been vetted by a much stricter standards and practices than a summer blockbuster. The streets are baron even before the fight begins in Superman Doomsday. Watching a human rather than a drawing being pummeled is a different experience. Watching a CGI building topple upon the citizens of metropolis is more visceral than anything city destruction in JLU. These cartoons lean towards fantasy while Synder, Nolan an co. lean toward grounding stories in reality. I brought up 911 because the iconography of that tragedy has infected our public consciousness and in turn is reflected in the stories we tell. The staff at iFanboy had trouble with both this movie and Star Trek: Into Darkness because of their experiences on that day. I thought the action was overdone, but I wasn't offended by it. However I respect the opinions of the people that were.
I'd give this a B+, or 4 out of 5 Frekking Sweers if you prefer. Still room for improvement, but a solid effort.
And as for the show itself, it's always great to hear Kevin's voice again! =D>
entertainment.time.com/2013/01/11/warner-bros-wins-superman-lawsuit-just-in-time-for-man-of-steel/
bleedingcool.com/2013/07/01/and-finally-when-an-official-superman-statue-has-him-standing-on-skulls/
Let's all soak that in
Not the Superman I want sitting on my shelf.
This is the one I want:
M
I agree with Kevin that after so much violence in the movie the impact and decisions of the last few scenes was at least a little muffled, if not completely. But most of all, it was the inability to portray a disaster like what happened in Metropolis realistically that lost me. People do not stand around and watch destruction occur, and they certainly do not remain in a high-rise as long as the staff of The Daily Planet did while the city is getting pummeled not too far away.
I don't want to get too far into a rant here, but you can here my complete thoughts and opinions on the Comic Timing episode that will be released by Wednesday at the earliest, Thursday at the latest.