Marvel Studios has made its second foray into the shining realm of Asgard, and we of CGS have gathered to share our reactions to 'Thor: The Dark World.' (Be thou wary, gentle listeners, for SPOILERS do herein abound!) (1:19:06)
The individual Thor movies were handled the way the Green Lantern movie(s) could/should have been. Now I know this is a thread, essentially about the Thor movie, but bear with me. Because this is all I could think of when I took in the granduer that was this movie.
Think about it, Thor is from another realm/planet. A place populated by thousands like him. He splits his time between that far off place and Earth/Midgard. The first movie they introduce the mythos, spend an appropriate amount of time on Asgard and tie things nicely with earth. In the second movie, the mythos is established. 9 realms. Asgard, Midgard and Jotunheim were ALL in the first movie, now more make themselves known and MOST of the movie is set in the other realms.
Now were either of the Thor movies mega blockbusters or the best films ever? No. But the first Thor movie was pretty good (something GL wasn't honestly) and the second one was even better...and more awe inspiring.
THAT'S how the GL movies should have been, if they ever even got past the FIRST one.
Also, did any fellow loyal Thor fans see the tree of Idunn in the movie? (the golden apples Asgardians eat to maintain their immortality/youth) It was in one of the many "scroll" shots showing us the Asgardian world.
Wife, son and I went to see T:TDW. All three of us loved it. My son took a good long time to stop laughing at the "TA DAH!" comment. Wife went to see it to stare at Thor. Honestly, I thought it was much more entertaining and engrossing than the first movie.
Would a solo Loki movie be pretty good?
By the way... we were the ONLY ones in the theater who stayed for the after-credits scene! Though, I don't know if it was worth it....
Guys, I'm sure the actors are enjoying themselves working for Marvel Films, but it's on their contracts to do these cameos. They aren't just showing up out of the goodness of their hearts .
For example, Mark Ruffalo signed for 15 films. That includes bits like his Iron Man 3 tag IIRC It was also one if the issues Ed Norton and Marvel had issues with, which led to him only doing the one Hulk film.
For the minor actors this again is in their contracts and obviously gives them the opp to get major face recognition with a rapid audience and makes them more bankable for other films that could come up (hey look, it's Peggy Carter)
Guys, I'm sure the actors are enjoying themselves working for Marvel Films, but it's on their contracts to do these cameos. They aren't just showing up out of the goodness of their hearts .
For example, Mark Ruffalo signed for 15 films. That includes bits like his Iron Man 3 tag IIRC It was also one if the issues Ed Norton and Marvel had issues with, which led to him only doing the one Hulk film.
For the minor actors this again is in their contracts and obviously gives them the opp to get major face recognition with a rapid audience and makes them more bankable for other films that could come up (hey look, it's Peggy Carter)
I was never under the impression the cameos were a "can you work me in for a cameo? I'll do it for free." I do think its cool to see the cameos. It strengthens the notion it is 1 universe.
Cap's makes sense because Chris Evans was already filming Winter Soldier.
I think you don't see Thor wearing his helmet simply because it's one of those comic book elements which don't translate well from the page into live action. Personally? I don't miss it at all. The costumers have already done a brilliant job with Thor's look, as far as coming close to how he's appeared in the comics. And while Jamie wishes we could've seen Thor wear it in the funeral scene, I think that would've been kooky and distracting...
Guys, I'm sure the actors are enjoying themselves working for Marvel Films, but it's on their contracts to do these cameos. They aren't just showing up out of the goodness of their hearts .
I never took it as they were showing up out of the goodness of their hearts or not under contract or wouldn't get paid.
I simply think they are very well dome, very well placed and the actors are having fun popping up in each others movies.
shane you said 'i've been impressed with the actors they got so far, that are willing to do these types of cameos in other people's movies." but again that's the deal that the studio set up with these actors. i believe you when you now say you knew that, but your comment sounded like you didn't (shrug)
other sorts of actors who aren't willing, aren't likely to be in these connected movies
@BionicDave, I agree with your comments about the helmet wholeheartedly. Thor's helm is the one element that I, even as a life-long die-hard Thor fan have never really enjoyed that much. And you're correct in that the translation from comic to reality with that would have been even more cumbersome and silly. We're already dealing with a lot of elements in this movie (and the others) that push the line (in some cases past) believability. The costuming in these movies has been exquisite, and Thor looks great without the helmet. I'm more than content for him to continue without it.
That being said, I will disagree with you and agree with @JaimeD that he absolutely should have worn it in the funeral scene. That was not only a formal event, but him not looking his absolute best for the funeral of his mother is unacceptable and disrespectful. Every Aesir in attendance should have been at their most Kirbyrific.
Aside from that I loved this movie. I enjoyed it far more than both Man of Steel and Iron Man 3. But I freely admit that my opinion on this matter is wholly and completely biased.
@BionicDave, I agree with your comments about the helmet wholeheartedly. Thor's helm is the one element that I, even as a life-long die-hard Thor fan have never really enjoyed that much. And you're correct in that the translation from comic to reality with that would have been even more cumbersome and silly. We're already dealing with a lot of elements in this movie (and the others) that push the line (in some cases past) believability.
That's exactly why, in another thread, I posted a Batman movie with him garbed in a gray & blue, spandex or non-body armor/tactical outfit wouldn't work.
I thoroughly enjoyed this film but I have a question. Maybe I’m missing something or just spaced out, but when Malekith inserted that stone thingamajig into Algrim for the purpose of turning into a Kursed, how did Algrim get to the Asgard dungeons from Malekith’s ship? Weren’t the elves that were already in the dungeons, including the ones that shared a cell with Algrim, the ones who were captured during the prologue battle at the beginning of the film?
@BionicDave, I agree with your comments about the helmet wholeheartedly. Thor's helm is the one element that I, even as a life-long die-hard Thor fan have never really enjoyed that much. And you're correct in that the translation from comic to reality with that would have been even more cumbersome and silly. We're already dealing with a lot of elements in this movie (and the others) that push the line (in some cases past) believability.
That's exactly why, in another thread, I posted a Batman movie with him garbed in a gray & blue, spandex or non-body armor/tactical outfit wouldn't work.
@BionicDave, I agree with your comments about the helmet wholeheartedly. Thor's helm is the one element that I, even as a life-long die-hard Thor fan have never really enjoyed that much. And you're correct in that the translation from comic to reality with that would have been even more cumbersome and silly. We're already dealing with a lot of elements in this movie (and the others) that push the line (in some cases past) believability.
That's exactly why, in another thread, I posted a Batman movie with him garbed in a gray & blue, spandex or non-body armor/tactical outfit wouldn't work.
M
yes, you keep saying that...but you're wrong. [-(
Only in Wonderland, on Opposite Day, & the cube-shaped planet of an albino Superman with a backward S on his chest & cape.
Since I've yet to read a massive moment to get an amateur, unrealistic, & foolish looking Batman, I'm confident none for the above have occurred. ;)
I think you don't see Thor wearing his helmet simply because it's one of those comic book elements which don't translate well from the page into live action. Personally? I don't miss it at all. The costumers have already done a brilliant job with Thor's look, as far as coming close to how he's appeared in the comics. And while Jamie wishes we could've seen Thor wear it in the funeral scene, I think that would've been kooky and distracting...
Actually I saw an interview with Hemsworth where he says pretty definitively that the helmet was a pain to wear, especially during difficult stunts scenes, so he either asked to keep it off.
I saw the movie last weekend and liked it quite a bit. I'm not going to go into great detail. Others have already said what I would have and done it much better. What I will say is that;
I like how the Thor franchise is being positioned as the "romantic" offering from Marvel. And, by romantic I mean the old school definition, not the current definition of romantic = bow chica wow wow.
Anthony Hopkins didn't have much to do, but what he did was awesome. The way he was sitting in the throne with his head cocked a bit. I immediately knew it was Loki. Frigga kicking Malekith's ass was incredible. Beautifully choreographed.
Meow meow! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Jamie Alexander is HOT!
Tom Hiddleston is the very best thing in the movie.
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Think about it, Thor is from another realm/planet. A place populated by thousands like him. He splits his time between that far off place and Earth/Midgard. The first movie they introduce the mythos, spend an appropriate amount of time on Asgard and tie things nicely with earth. In the second movie, the mythos is established. 9 realms. Asgard, Midgard and Jotunheim were ALL in the first movie, now more make themselves known and MOST of the movie is set in the other realms.
Now were either of the Thor movies mega blockbusters or the best films ever? No. But the first Thor movie was pretty good (something GL wasn't honestly) and the second one was even better...and more awe inspiring.
THAT'S how the GL movies should have been, if they ever even got past the FIRST one.
Also, did any fellow loyal Thor fans see the tree of Idunn in the movie? (the golden apples Asgardians eat to maintain their immortality/youth) It was in one of the many "scroll" shots showing us the Asgardian world.
Honestly, I loved this movie. It wasn't perfect but it was damn good, fun, funny and full of action. My 6 year old jumped when Thor lost his hand.
Wasn't the Infinity Guantlet a cut scene from Thor?
My ranking of the Marvel Studios movies.
Avengers
Iron Man
Captain America (still debating on placement)
Thor: The Dark World
Also, the Kirby was strong in this flick.
M
Would a solo Loki movie be pretty good?
By the way... we were the ONLY ones in the theater who stayed for the after-credits scene! Though, I don't know if it was worth it....
For example, Mark Ruffalo signed for 15 films. That includes bits like his Iron Man 3 tag
IIRC It was also one if the issues Ed Norton and Marvel had issues with, which led to him only doing the one Hulk film.
For the minor actors this again is in their contracts and obviously gives them the opp to get major face recognition with a rapid audience and makes them more bankable for other films that could come up (hey look, it's Peggy Carter)
Cap's makes sense because Chris Evans was already filming Winter Soldier.
M
I simply think they are very well dome, very well placed and the actors are having fun popping up in each others movies.
'i've been impressed with the actors they got so far, that are willing to do these types of cameos in other people's movies." but again that's the deal that the studio set up with these actors. i believe you when you now say you knew that, but your comment sounded like you didn't (shrug)
other sorts of actors who aren't willing, aren't likely to be in these connected movies
That being said, I will disagree with you and agree with @JaimeD that he absolutely should have worn it in the funeral scene. That was not only a formal event, but him not looking his absolute best for the funeral of his mother is unacceptable and disrespectful. Every Aesir in attendance should have been at their most Kirbyrific.
Aside from that I loved this movie. I enjoyed it far more than both Man of Steel and Iron Man 3. But I freely admit that my opinion on this matter is wholly and completely biased.
M
Since I've yet to read a massive moment to get an amateur, unrealistic, & foolish looking Batman, I'm confident none for the above have occurred. ;)
M
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2013/11/17/preview-this-weeks-agents-of-shield-ties-into-thor-the-dark-world/
For those that missed it :)
I like how the Thor franchise is being positioned as the "romantic" offering from Marvel. And, by romantic I mean the old school definition, not the current definition of romantic = bow chica wow wow.
Anthony Hopkins didn't have much to do, but what he did was awesome. The way he was sitting in the throne with his head cocked a bit. I immediately knew it was Loki. Frigga kicking Malekith's ass was incredible. Beautifully choreographed.
Meow meow! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Jamie Alexander is HOT!
Tom Hiddleston is the very best thing in the movie.