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Justice League and Avengers...too familiar?

too popular, too familiar

more emphasis on Power Man, Absorbing Man, Sandman, Multiman (DC), Multiple-Man (Marvel), Warpath, The Question, Aztec, Azrael, Starman, Sage: Changing Man, Negative Man, Sasquatch (Marvel), Hercules, Colossus, Firestorm, Savage Dragon, Astro City, Sub-Mariner, Super-Skrull, Black Adam

anybody else feel the same way?

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  • DoctorDoomDoctorDoom Posts: 2,586
    Power Man - Mighty Avengers

    Multiple-Man (Marvel) - Formerly X-Factor. Still recent enough, he starred there for years.

    Sage: Changing Man - I guess you meant Shade? Last I saw him, he was in the first few issue of Justice League Dark

    Colossus - Was recently with X-Force

    Firestorm - Was recently with Justice League of America

    Savage Dragon - That's..... not Marvel or DC

    Astro City - That's not a person

    Sub-Mariner - New Avengers

    Super-Skrull - Not exactly a "hero", but featured in Infinity.

    Black Adam - Not exactly a "hero" either, and I think he's dead.
  • TheHotWindBlowingTheHotWindBlowing Posts: 58
    edited December 2014
    Yeah Shade, Changing Man

    What I was saying is there should be more issues devoted to those individuals.

    I realize Savage Dragon isn't Marvel or DC...that's the beauty of him.

    Astro City was uniquely not Marvel nor DC as well...wish it would come back and even in Animated movies.

    I was just winging it...I hate the familiar.

    It'd be nice if others started hating it too.

  • MattMatt Posts: 4,457

    Yeah Shade, Changing Man

    What I was saying is there should be more issues devoted to those individuals.

    I realize Savage Dragon isn't Marvel or DC...that's the beauty of him.

    Astro City was uniquely not Marvel nor DC as well...wish it would come back and even in Animated movies.

    I was just winging it...I hate the familiar.

    It'd be nice if others started hating it too.

    Why would it be nice if others started hating it (the familiar) too? Would that make the characters less familiar automatically more interesting or turn people away?

    M
  • TheHotWindBlowingTheHotWindBlowing Posts: 58
    edited December 2014
    Good question.

    Because then that would be evidence that we live in a world where people are able to pull away from the bandwagon and think for themselves.


  • MattMatt Posts: 4,457
    edited December 2014

    Good question.

    Because then that would be evidence that we live in a world where people are able to pull away from the bandwagon and think for themselves.


    I disagree. I enjoy reading Batman, Spider-man, Moon Knight, the Shadow, Snake-Eyes, & Wolverine because of specific aspects of the characters. Those aspects are what I personally find intriguing about each character.

    Whether I was the only one to do so or not, it wouldn't change a thing. I really don't care who does or doesn't like the characters or what their reasonings are.

    On another thread, you expressed your opinion Kent is the king of them all. He's a very familiar character; arguably 1st or 2nd. Do you like him just to ride the bandwagon? If you did find him bland, does that mean you think for yourself & aren't riding the bandwagon?

    Hating the familiar won't change that.

    M

  • anybody else feel the same way?

    Honestly, I have no idea what you're talking about.

    :-/
  • MattMatt Posts: 4,457
    Thinking about this more; aren't the less familiar characters getting spotlights? Marvel Studios is basically running on unfamiliar characters? Hulk & Cap were probably the most well known before the movies.

    Would Suicide Squad be in the works if people weren't taking chances on less familiar characters?

    What the Marvel Netflix shows coming in 2015?

    I'd say people are embracing less familiar characters now more then ever.

    M
  • TheHotWindBlowingTheHotWindBlowing Posts: 58
    edited December 2014
    Matt,


    I like Superman but not Justice League


    anybody else feel the same way?

    Honestly, I have no idea what you're talking about.

    :-/

    That's a shame.

    I'm asking if anybody here thinks material devoted to JL and Avengers can take a hiatus in favor other things now.









  • bralinatorbralinator Posts: 5,967
    Comics publishing is a business. The big two aren't likely to cut off the books making money in favor of books that are either untried or have failed before. It might be fun to read a Sasquatch limited series, but I doubt it would sell more than 10,000 copies in this climate.

    Yes, even if it was "Death of Sasquatch"

    From what I understand, Savage Dragon is still a thing, so is Astro City, but the creators don't produce new material often enough and Sub-Mariner, well, I think Namor was great, I have the full run (plus annuals!) but again, the numbers aren't there, or weren't the last time.

  • jaydee74jaydee74 Posts: 1,526
    Well, depends on what those "other things" you are talking about. The attractive sell for titles like JLA and Avengers is that this is the "super-group" no pun intended where the mightiest heroes join forces to fight a force they can't fight on their own. As Jamie D once said about his love for the Avengers, he liked the bang for his buck. Here's one book where you get all of your favorite heroes in one title. Who wouldn't want that? I think there will always be a desire for something like that but that doesn't mean there isn't room for other things as well.
  • MattMatt Posts: 4,457

    Matt,


    I like Superman but not Justice League




    anybody else feel the same way?

    Honestly, I have no idea what you're talking about.

    :-/

    That's a shame.

    I'm asking if anybody here thinks material devoted to JL and Avengers can take a hiatus in favor other things now.
    If they focused less on JLA, do you think that'd put more focus on Kent?

    M
  • RickMRickM Posts: 407
    I don't understand what question is being asked.
  • RickM said:

    I don't understand what question is being asked.

    Samesies!

  • bralinatorbralinator Posts: 5,967
    I predict some small vindication is imminent.
  • TheHotWindBlowingTheHotWindBlowing Posts: 58
    edited December 2014
    Matt said:

    Matt,


    I like Superman but not Justice League




    anybody else feel the same way?

    Honestly, I have no idea what you're talking about.

    :-/

    That's a shame.

    I'm asking if anybody here thinks material devoted to JL and Avengers can take a hiatus in favor other things now.
    If they focused less on JLA, do you think that'd put more focus on Kent?

    M

    They would not have to focus on either Kent nor the League, but again more on less thought about Characters.
  • MattMatt Posts: 4,457
    edited December 2014

    Matt said:

    Matt,


    I like Superman but not Justice League




    anybody else feel the same way?

    Honestly, I have no idea what you're talking about.

    :-/

    That's a shame.

    I'm asking if anybody here thinks material devoted to JL and Avengers can take a hiatus in favor other things now.
    If they focused less on JLA, do you think that'd put more focus on Kent?

    M

    They would not have to focus on either Kent nor the League, but again more on less thought about Characters.
    I'm not certain that would matter. If you're saying there is a heavy push on JLA & Avengers, then I should probably be loading up on books. In actuality, I haven't been interested in reading Spider-man since OMD, so I stopped buying Marvel until the new Moon Knight series. It's the only Marvel book I buy or care about right now.

    Same for DC; I haven't been interested in reading Batman since OYL. I haven't bought any DC since. Both are my anchors to their companies (MK is a guilty pleasure), if I'm not reading them, I don't read anything else from the company.

    That wouldn't change if JLA & Avengers were downplayed.

    I do believe putting the spotlights on Avengers & JLA are ways to bring less known characters to the foreground. Maybe someone didn't care or has ever heard about a character until he/she/it appeared in the team up book.

    M
  • bralinatorbralinator Posts: 5,967
    Matt said:

    Matt said:

    Matt,


    I like Superman but not Justice League




    anybody else feel the same way?

    Honestly, I have no idea what you're talking about.

    :-/

    That's a shame.

    I'm asking if anybody here thinks material devoted to JL and Avengers can take a hiatus in favor other things now.
    If they focused less on JLA, do you think that'd put more focus on Kent?

    M

    They would not have to focus on either Kent nor the League, but again more on less thought about Characters.
    I'm not certain that would matter. If you're saying there is a heavy push on JLA & Avengers, then I should probably be loading up on books. In actuality, I haven't been interested in reading Spider-man since OMD, so I stopped buying Marvel until the new Moon Knight series. It's the only Marvel book I buy or care about right now.

    Same for DC; I haven't been interested in reading Batman since OYL. I haven't bought any DC since. Both are my anchors to their companies (MK is a guilty pleasure), if I'm not reading them, I don't read anything else from the company.

    That wouldn't change if JLA & Avengers were downplayed.

    M
    Because the "M" stands for maverick.
  • Evening639Evening639 Posts: 368
    edited December 2014

    too popular, too familiar

    more emphasis on Power Man, Absorbing Man, Sandman, Multiman (DC), Multiple-Man (Marvel), Warpath, The Question, Aztec, Azrael, Starman, Sage: Changing Man, Negative Man, Sasquatch (Marvel), Hercules, Colossus, Firestorm, Savage Dragon, Astro City, Sub-Mariner, Super-Skrull, Black Adam

    anybody else feel the same way?

    Perhaps the answer isn't to eliminate the JLA and Avengers. What if we instead pitch a Marvel/DC crossover featuring all of these characters AS the new JLA and Avengers. Savage Dragon can take the role of a Beyonder-type character and serve as the main orchestrator since he is "beyond" Marvel and DC and Astro City can serve as this event's Battleworld.

    anybody else feel the same way?



  • I think, merely because a character is popular, doesn't necessarily negate the "epicness" of a run.

    In other words, I'm not going to avoid Batman just because it's Batman. Scott Snyder writes the book, I enjoy it, I buy it. Someone else starts writing it, I don't like it, I skip it.

    There are some titles I'll get based on casual interest. For instance, I'll try anything with the following: Firestorm, Gambit, Venom, Ragman, The Phantom Strange, Deadman, Thor, etc. Some of those are popular characters, some aren't.

    I have a passing interest in the Spectre. DC recently came out with 'Gotham After Midnight', I liked the concept, I liked the characters that would be involved, I REALLY liked the fact that it was a book set in Gotham that DIDN'T involve Batman. So I got it.

    To be fair, we're all (well most of us) listeners to a podcast that covers most ALL comics, hosted by people with varying tastes. Not only are we all SO into comics that we actively listen to CGS, but we go a step further and participate in a forum with other like minded, SERIOUSLY involved fans. I'm certain there are no bandwagon fans here. We all buy the comics we buy because we love them.
  • luke52luke52 Posts: 1,392
    I little confused here...

    But anyway, these two books are the two core books for both companies. Surely, these books should be consisting of the top heroes?

    Everyone else have their own books or would be in one of the lesser JL/Avengers books (JLU, Secret Avengers etc...).
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