Tomorrowland

WetRats

This movie looks like it could be so good.

Am am a bit concerned that Lindelof worked on the script, though...

bralinator

Prediction = bomb

WetRats

bralinator said:

Prediction = bomb

I know they'll sell at least one ticket.

I haven't seen much promotion going on, though.

RepoMan

I don't care if it's a bomb. It's a movie to take the family. That's a win. I'm glad I don't need sales numbers to dictate what to see. Haha.

Fade2Black

They had me at "Brad Bird".
The guy has a knack for directing movies I like. I confess, I'm more interested in seeing Tomorrowland than I am Jurassic World.

(Other films directed by Brad Bird)
2011 Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol
2007 Ratatouille
2004 The Incredibles
1999 The Iron Giant

bralinator

Take no offense, the 'prediction' is based on the odd marketing and the net financials, not on the quality of the movie itself.

RedRight88

My review of the movie (spoilers).

RepoMan

When a movie strikes a chord with your family in ways that no other movie has in the past few years, I call that a success. Money well spent this weekend! I'm feeling like a second viewing is in order just to catch everything again. The spirit of imagination in this is so well captured. Bravo all around.

bralinator

RepoMan said:

When a movie strikes a chord with your family in ways that no other movie has in the past few years, I call that a success. Money well spent this weekend! I'm feeling like a second viewing is in order just to catch everything again. The spirit of imagination in this is so well captured. Bravo all around.

With the film coming in at 49% on the Tomatometer, I'm sure the producers appreciate your enthusiasm. It could use a bump.

RepoMan

Did you see it? What do you care about its success/failure other than "I told you so" bragging rights or the glee in watching something fail? What a loser. Haha.

David_D

@RepoMan

Let's keep this above the level of the school yard. Thanks.

WetRats

I'm going tonight.

Can't wait!

bralinator

@RepoMan did you really just type "What a loser. Haha?"

RepoMan said:

Did you see it? What do you care about its success/failure other than "I told you so" bragging rights or the glee in watching something fail? What a loser. Haha.

I don't care. And the post you're replying to doesn't indicate that I did. Also, I didn't see it, but I plan to watch it when it comes on Netflix. Not taking any glee in its failure, but yes, it aligns with my prediction that it was poorly marketed and wouldn't do well at the box office.

David_D said:

@RepoMan

Let's keep this above the level of the school yard. Thanks.

After reading some reviews, it occurred to me that maybe the movie's missing audience has already figured out that they can get global warming Ted Talks for free on Youtube instead of paying $10 to see George Clooney and Disney make a movie about it. Although I hear some of the action bits crackle with life.

WetRats

NPR's David Edelstein liked it, and he's a reviewer I usually agree with.

David_D

It looks like the sort of thing I would have loved as a kid. I got something of a Last Starfighter vibe from the trailer. My kids are too young to see it this summer, but maybe someday.

WetRats

David_D said:

It looks like the sort of thing I would have loved as a kid. I got something of a Last Starfighter vibe from the trailer. My kids are too young to see it this summer, but maybe someday.

Critics have called it preachy, but I'm pretty sure I'm in the choir.

bralinator

WetRats said:

David_D said:

It looks like the sort of thing I would have loved as a kid. I got something of a Last Starfighter vibe from the trailer. My kids are too young to see it this summer, but maybe someday.

Critics have called it preachy, but I'm pretty sure I'm in the choir.

I don't think it's the preachiness that has kept mainstream audiences away. Just the marketing. But when I look back, it appears Disney spent a boatload on money and time on marketing this film. Not sure what they could've done differently. They launched an aggressive two-year marketing campaign that included a Super Bowl commercial, trailers on “The Avengers: Age of Ultron” and exhibitions at Disney theme parks. Maybe keeping the disaster clips out and keeping the premise vague was a turn-off to 'Memorial Day audiences.'

Disney may have stumbled a bit on the roll-out, but they can survive a swing-and-a-miss. They have Marvel and Pixar to cushion them. The good news is that they've brought Brad Bird back into the fold.

TheOriginalGMan

My 12 year old wants to see it, so it'll probably be on my "to do" list in the coming weeks.

WetRats

bralinator said:

WetRats said:

David_D said:

It looks like the sort of thing I would have loved as a kid. I got something of a Last Starfighter vibe from the trailer. My kids are too young to see it this summer, but maybe someday.

Critics have called it preachy, but I'm pretty sure I'm in the choir.

I don't think it's the preachiness that has kept mainstream audiences away. Just the marketing. But when I look back, it appears Disney has been dumping a boatload on marketing this thing for almost a year now. Not sure what they could've done differently. They launched an aggressive two-year marketing campaign that included a Super Bowl commercial, trailers on “The Avengers: Age of Ultron” and exhibitions at Disney theme parks. Maybe keeping the disaster clips out and keeping the premise vague was a turn-off to 'Memorial Day audiences.'

I was in from the first teaser, but I'm the target audience.

WetRats

TheOriginalGMan said:

My 12 year old wants to see it, so it'll probably be on my "to do" list in the coming weeks.

I wouldn't wait long. It's probably gonna get crowded out of theaters pretty quickly.

bralinator

David_D said:

It looks like the sort of thing I would have loved as a kid. I got something of a Last Starfighter vibe from the trailer. My kids are too young to see it this summer, but maybe someday.

I don't remember what brought me to the the theatre to see the Last Starfighter... but I loved that movie.

hmm..

Mr_Cosmic

I haven't been following this movie but I can't help but assume the marketing was poor simply because neither of my children have said a word about wanting to see it. Normally they're talking about movies weeks before they're released and their apathy toward this film speaks volumes to me.

This is the first I've heard about it being preachy. If it is I think it was a poor choice for this type of movie. If you want to make a preachy movie..great..but you have to expect the word to get out there and those who differ with the movie's message will avoid it. A big budget movie that depends on the masses showing up to make a profit might want to avoid being polarizing.

Brack

Tomorrowland has its roots in the pulps, specifically Tom Swift, and that doesn't fly as well with kids as it does with former Simpsons animators who are turning their hand to directing live action films (see also: John Carter). Also, most kids are not that big into Objectivist screeds.

WetRats

What a wonderful movie!

The critics have their heads up their asses.

And there's nothing remotely Objectivist about it.

I want to see it again more than Ultron or Mad Max.

RepoMan

WetRats said:

What a wonderful movie!

The critics have their heads up their asses.

And there's nothing remotely Objectivist about it.

I want to see it again more than Ultron or Mad Max.

=D>

playdohsrepublic

Maybe it's the fact that they tried to Abrams it up with the secrecy, which is a major marketing mistake. People don't go to movies blindly. I have no idea what this movie is about and I've seen the trailers and the commercials. What's the hook? Because there also isn't a mystery to the marketing. You can keep the plot of Star Wars under wraps because everyone knows what Star Wars is. You can get away with a Cloverfield because people ask "What is everyone running from?". The Matrix had the simple question "What is the Matrix?" All I got from Tomorrowland was that it was a sci-fantasy. That's not a hook, it's a genre. I'm not talking about giving away the whole plot, just tell me what kind of story you are offering or a question in my mind that I have to have answered or just tell me what's great about this movie by giving away a enough to get me interested.

RedRight88

playdohsrepublic said:

Maybe it's the fact that they tried to Abrams it up with the secrecy, which is a major marketing mistake. People don't go to movies blindly. I have no idea what this movie is about and I've seen the trailers and the commercials. What's the hook? Because there also isn't a mystery to the marketing. You can keep the plot of Star Wars under wraps because everyone knows what Star Wars is. You can get away with a Cloverfield because people ask "What is everyone running from?". The Matrix had the simple question "What is the Matrix?" All I got from Tomorrowland was that it was a sci-fantasy. That's not a hook, it's a genre. I'm not talking about giving away the whole plot, just tell me what kind of story you are offering or a question in my mind that I have to have answered or just tell me what's great about this movie by giving away a enough to get me interested.

Yeah, it seems that the people who complain about movie trailers containing too much of the movie are complaining about a movie whose trailers had almost nothing of the main plot.

bralinator

Don't know if they're complaining so much as just not bothering to go see it in theaters.

electric_mayhem

Saw it..

Confused by it..

Best part of the movie?

Spoilers!











The scene with pop culture store and all the Disney / PIXAR / Star Wars collectibles..


Other than that, I felt there was more talking than actually doing...

RepoMan

RedRight88 said:

Yeah, it seems that the people who complain about movie trailers containing too much of the movie are complaining about a movie whose trailers had almost nothing of the main plot.

Yup! I guess the title of "Tomorrowland" isn't enough. Haha.

bralinator

Someone said they had already seen this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HyHcFJMBM4