I generally don't either, but I'm also thinking about how it goes over with the fans of the show who aren't necessarily accustomed to the huge shifts in tone we (as comic book fans and pop culture nuts) are accustomed to. Whether we like it or not, it's THOSE people who determine if shows like this continue from season to season, not died-in-the-wool fans like us (we are still far too small a demographic Is the musical episode going to alienate more casual "probationary" fans? ? I honestly don't know...but it seems (to me) to be a needlessly risky and self-indulgent move. I think they call it "an unforced error" in baseball.
Yes, it is those people who determine if these shows succeed or fail. I’ve already said as much. But I think you may be underestimating the general audience in terms of their flexibility in adapting to shifts in tone. It’s not a new occurence, as you yourself have said. I’m not saying it’s not a risk, but I don’t think it’s very big risk.
Eric, are you actually even watching these shows currently? I don't think anyone here minds living in a world that celebrates Batman from the 60's and Frank Miller's version of Batman, but the two don't mix. I like peanut butter and filet mignon, but I don't combine the two. Same goes for Oreo's and sardines.
As I already stated earlier in the thread, I don’t watch Flash regularly, and I have yet to see an episode of Supergirl. But I will say that one of my favorite episodes of Batman: The Animated Series was “Legends of the Dark Knight,” where they told a Dick Sprang-inspired ’50s style Batman story side by side with a Dark Knight Returns-inspired story, and it worked beautifully. X-Files would always mix in two or three silly, hilarious episodes into each season and it didn’t lessen the impact of the conspiracy plotline one bit—not for me anyway.
Oh sure, there's a vocal minority out there that the moment they heard this idea immediately got excited and thought "we NEED this," but I assure you there is a majority out there that thinks this is a terrible idea.
Geez, I hope they don’t bring Arrow into it. I really don’t like that show.
As I already stated earlier in the thread, I don’t watch Flash regularly, and I have yet to see an episode of Supergirl...
Geez, I hope they don’t bring Arrow into it. I really don’t like that show.
Which adds credence to my theory that most of the folks that like the idea of special musical episodes of television shows aren't actually invested fans of the shows themselves.
Those that applaud this idea deserve a blu-ray release of the Star Wars Christmas Special.
It's a good thing we've got Arkham, cuz the thought of a musical episode drives us Bats!
Drives us bats. Drives us bats.
Really drives us bats bats bats, it drives us bats.
-ahem-
Nice. Maybe all future responses to this thread should by in the form of song lyrics or a limerick...
If the Flash and Supergirl sing a song Most of fandom will scream this is wrong Though the method's been done funny books should be fun And we can't stop it now - move along
Nonetheless, it should be better than the Flash movie, so it's happening, no stopping it now. But I intend to demand that King Shark appear just so The Flash can jump him...
If I ran things King Shark would not only appear, he'd have the main sad soliloquy song as his highlight number. :)
I have no problems with a musical episode because...guess what? We haven't seen it yet. It could be that there's a villain who can only communicate through song, or uses music as a way to change the city so EVERYONE has to sing now. I could totally follow that.
And let's not forget the ending of Final Crisis, where the entire universe was saved by everyone playing a magical horn. :)
Not at all... but have you forgotten about Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark just a few short years later? Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark once held the box office record for Broadway sales in one week, taking in $2.9 million over nine performances. Apparently there are more than a few people out there who want their superheros to come in the singing and dancing variety. Not my cup of tea, but there is no denying that show's success. It had a decent run and pulled in ca$h.
I keep comparing this with the Buffy musical episode in my mind.
The Buffy musical was in season six. It did not cross over with Angel. The characters were very well established and at that point, nobody really new fan wise was jumping aboard. The episode dealt with issues that had been simmering pretty much since season 4. Supposedly, the mastermind of the buffyverse spent 6 months writing it, and the cast spent 3 months in voice training and they worked inbetween shooting 4 other episodes to put it together.
My fear is that the Flash/Supergirl musical does not have the creative talent behind it, they will not spend nearly as much time on it, and it wil be treated as a one off gimmack without a lot of story depth behind it because the shows (especially Supergirl) are still developing.
Not at all... but have you forgotten about Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark just a few short years later? Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark once held the box office record for Broadway sales in one week, taking in $2.9 million over nine performances. Apparently there are more than a few people out there who want their superheros to come in the singing and dancing variety. Not my cup of tea, but there is no denying that show's success. It had a decent run and pulled in ca$h.
Turn Off The Dark opened to reportedly very mixed reviews and a lot of problems. Plus, it was a Broadway show, where people go expecting musical numbers. Spider-Man 3's music and dance scene were universally panned. I don't know if either is a great example for superhero musical TV success. Do we know if the people producing this cross-over have experience with successful musicals? Do they have some experience in this genre or some Broadway musical credentials, other than the cast all having performed in a musical sometime in the past I mean?
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Those that applaud this idea deserve a blu-ray release of the Star Wars Christmas Special.
It's a good thing we've got Arkham, cuz the thought of a musical episode drives us Bats!
Drives us bats. Drives us bats.
Really drives us bats bats bats, it drives us bats.
-ahem-
If the Flash and Supergirl sing a song
Most of fandom will scream this is wrong
Though the method's been done
funny books should be fun
And we can't stop it now - move along
I can't believe no one's posted this.
OH THE HUMANITY......
Please don't let the CW do this to The Flash...
;)
I have no problems with a musical episode because...guess what? We haven't seen it yet. It could be that there's a villain who can only communicate through song, or uses music as a way to change the city so EVERYONE has to sing now. I could totally follow that.
And let's not forget the ending of Final Crisis, where the entire universe was saved by everyone playing a magical horn. :)
And in my ear I swear I hear a quite distinctive ringing!
Spider-Man: Turn Off the Dark once held the box office record for Broadway sales in one week, taking in $2.9 million over nine performances.
Apparently there are more than a few people out there who want their superheros to come in the singing and dancing variety. Not my cup of tea, but there is no denying that show's success. It had a decent run and pulled in ca$h.
The Buffy musical was in season six. It did not cross over with Angel. The characters were very well established and at that point, nobody really new fan wise was jumping aboard. The episode dealt with issues that had been simmering pretty much since season 4. Supposedly, the mastermind of the buffyverse spent 6 months writing it, and the cast spent 3 months in voice training and they worked inbetween shooting 4 other episodes to put it together.
My fear is that the Flash/Supergirl musical does not have the creative talent behind it, they will not spend nearly as much time on it, and it wil be treated as a one off gimmack without a lot of story depth behind it because the shows (especially Supergirl) are still developing.