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The Post-Convergence DC Universe: New #1s, Relaunches, Predictions, and Hopes
David_D
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There has been some conversations around this already, such as in this thread, where people have asked current, lapsed, and even new DC readers what they are hoping the next phase of the DCU will be like.
But as that is more a conversation about where the negative feelings about DC/ The New 52, I thought we could separate this out to a new conversation.
So, simply put, what are you hoping the new, post-Convergence DCU will be like? Are there any of the announced books or creative teams that have your interest? Do you like what you see in any of the many online previews?
They have this chance to shake things up and make some changes. What do you hope they do with it? If you've been out, what could you see that might get you back in?
A Challenge: Tell us what you want them to do. Not what you don't want.
I think we've got what we don't want them to do, or do more of, covered in our other conversations.
Also, if you are not interested in DC at all these days, if they've lost you, so be it. But you don't need to tell us again here.
So. For those interested... what do you want to see in the Newest DCU?
But as that is more a conversation about where the negative feelings about DC/ The New 52, I thought we could separate this out to a new conversation.
So, simply put, what are you hoping the new, post-Convergence DCU will be like? Are there any of the announced books or creative teams that have your interest? Do you like what you see in any of the many online previews?
They have this chance to shake things up and make some changes. What do you hope they do with it? If you've been out, what could you see that might get you back in?
A Challenge: Tell us what you want them to do. Not what you don't want.
I think we've got what we don't want them to do, or do more of, covered in our other conversations.
Also, if you are not interested in DC at all these days, if they've lost you, so be it. But you don't need to tell us again here.
So. For those interested... what do you want to see in the Newest DCU?
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Limit the crossovers within familes of books as much as possible for a couple of years. Let the creative teams develop each book before having a Batman, Superman, Green Lantern, etc book event.
I am not saying go back to Silver Age wackiness, but lighten the tone of the universe a little. Let the characters enjoy being heroes every once in a while.
CrisisCreativity on Infinite EarthsAlso, an anthology type book where rotating teams can tell stories with characters they want. Let's use the new (old) multiverse. I want a good Wally West story; a Blue and Gold sitcom; or a kickass, hairy-chested-Neil-Adams-Denny-O'neil Batman story. How about an Alan Mooresque Superman? JSA /JLA Crisis on 2 Earths would be sweet.
Matthew
I like the art I've seen. Bizarro's posture and expression immediately make me like him, and the Prez stuff gives me Angel & the Ape flashbacks.
Oh yeah... and fun. Can't forget fun.
And bright colors!
(How sad is it that my favorite recent Superman portrayal of late is the slightly dickish, yet still basically decent version in the HISHE cartoons.)
The other "Fun" series, Bat-Mite, holds no initial appeal for me, as the character has always been too "hey look at me trying really hard to be funny" for me. Plus I'm pretty much sick of all things batty at this point.
None of the "serious" titles caught me with their initial pitch, but I am always happy to be wrong, and catch up later with series that turn out to be excellent.
Let me elaborate on it and if this isn't what you meant @Torchsong, feel free to distinguish your point from my own. Also, forgive me as I'm about to get negative on a thread that's mostly of a positive bent. I'm doing it to elaborate on WHY I feel Torchsongs point is EVERYTHING I want from DC right now.
I'm getting sick of DC. I really and truly am. Denny O'Neil once told me the mark of a great editor is one whose presence you don't notice, who does very little to interfere with the creativity and direction of the team on a title.
I tend to agree with Denny.
DC post New 52 doesn't follow that blueprint. The creative teams are directed WAY too much for my personal liking. If the multiverse is back, this means infinite earths, which means infinite possibilities, which means you don't need editors or whomever crow-baring everything into how THEY want it to go.
I want to see FUN and CREATIVITY injected back into the DC universe. If getting that means we have to make a whole separate line of DC "DC Old U" or "DC FUN" then so be it. If we can just set it in the main lineup and let it be, that's cool too.
But DC Entertainment seems to be acting counter intuitively lately. For example, that mess with DC not allowing Arrow to use Harley Quinn because they had other plans for the character for their movie universe. If you're going to defiantly and definitively announce that your TV universe and your movie universe aren't connected, then stick by it. You can't pick and choose, "Oh Harley is being used, so no. But you can keep doing the Flash TV show because that's making money."
Same with the comics. If you're going to re-introduce infinite possibilities, then don't go out of your way to stifle new, interesting and fun ideas anymore.
And the titles aren't OUT just yet so maybe we WILL get it with titles like Black Canary, Dr. Fate, Batmite, Bizarro, Starfire and more. For all I know things like this are just the beginning of a great new and freeing direction at DC. But as things stand NOW, I've been burned too many times by them lately to trust that it is. But I remain cautiously hopeful.
*All of this is obviously my own personal opinion. If you think the New 52 isn't restricted creatively, then awesome. Glad you're enjoying the comics. I personally don't find this to be the case.
I really expect the "Suicide Squad" film to be a "Harley Quinn and a bunch of other folks" film. She's a great character, itching to be exploited in a big way, and the Arrow appearance could have diluted the effectiveness of her big screen debut.
Overall, the TV properties have been given a huge amount of freedom to dig through the character pool. In this one case, they had an understandable conflict.
And bring back the Subs.. For the fun.. And super - karate..
Our job? Defending DC in the DC vs. Marvel panel...and we nailed it! :)
He's too much of a "one face fits all" artist for the Legion.
And too Michael Turner-y.
And at least the art would be pretty
to look at
I can't see past the white spot on the tip of everybody's noses.
I may not trade-wait after all.
Geoff John's JSA was the best DC comics I ever read...
Probably does not mean much coming from a mostly Marvel reader... but i LOVED JSA...
and i'm not sure JSA works without all the continuity, history, quirkiness of the pre-New52 DC
I do not think that means throwing out continuity or not having crossovers. I find that if a crossover is approached correctly you can learn a lot about a character you are following. Marvel gave their creators a year to craft their takes on a book, but then they eventually had a big crossover.
No worries, this is what I want to see. Rocafort doing a futuristic LoSH because we always need to see more Legion. And I think it would be interesting take on a concept that is largely dominated by what the 60s and 70s thought would be the future
Are the Inferior 5 in the book, or just on the cover.
I may have to buy the damned thing after all!
Batman - I am so confused with this character right now. Bruce is still in the JLA - Darseid War Story - but someone else is filling his shoes in his main title books. (won't say who in case someone doesn't know).
Superman - in his new story line - I'm confused again. It seems like he and Lex haven't been working together in the JLA.
But it just seems like continuity is out the window in the New DC Universe.
One thing I do want in a comic universe is some sort of continuity. I want it to tie together for the most part.
If it was alternate realities then I could understand that. But these titles are all supposed to be, at lease as far as I know, in the main DC Universe.
Can anyone shed some light on what I am missing here.