Yes. All Supes did was stop a bully by embarrassing him and making him dizzy and placing his butt in some food and onto a pinball machine, then he paid for the damages. The bully only got hurt when he tried to gut check Supes.
What Man of Steel's Kent did was destroy a man's property in secret and hurt his livelihood and damage public property and possibly the cafe's property in the process while possibly frightening the entire town bewildered by what actually happened. In a way it's even creepier than Singer's version of "Peeping Tom Superman" in Superman Returns.
Crippling a truck driver doesn't jeopardize his livelihood?
And better yet, get the fuck out with "his livelihood is jeopardize" due to the damage to his truck. If you're going to use that, then every time someone's home, vehicle, property, or even employer is involved with damage it'll "jeopardize" someone's livelihood.
You know, the Beatles wouldn't have blown up a guy’s truck or gone back to that bar to revenge themselves on a rude truck driver. They would have sung, “All You Need Is Love,” while running around the city at high speed, then climbed into a tiny car and driven away.
Yes. All Supes did was stop a bully by embarrassing him and making him dizzy and placing his butt in some food and onto a pinball machine, then he paid for the damages. The bully only got hurt when he tried to gut check Supes.
What Man of Steel's Kent did was destroy a man's property in secret and hurt his livelihood and damage public property and possibly the cafe's property in the process while possibly frightening the entire town bewildered by what actually happened. In a way it's even creepier than Singer's version of "Peeping Tom Superman" in Superman Returns.
And what about the livelihood of that diner owner? If a place has a reputation for fights breaking out, would you take your business there? Whether it's as a patron, insurance carrier, employee, etc. How does that not "jeopardize" HIS livelihood?
i always thought the Kent's upbringing was what made Clark Kent Superman and not Evilman... maybe I am focusing too much on the "you don't owe them anything" part...
You were correct.
And there was nothing supposed to be extraordinary about the Kents. They were just good, decent regular* folks, and their goodness, decency, regularity influenced their son.
Crippling a truck driver doesn't jeopardize his livelihood?
And better yet, get the fuck out with "his livelihood is in jeopardize" due to the damage to his truck. If you're going to use that, then every time someone's home, vehicle, property, or even employer "jeopardizes" someone's livelihood.
That's grasping for a lifeline.
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You're assuming he was crippled. Rocky may have only sprained his hand, if that. It didn't seem to hurt when he punched Supes in the back of the skull during his previous assault. Supes also calmed the nerves of the establishment goers and kept the damage minimal.
MoS Clark probably traumatized the diners when they came outside to see this...
You know, the Beatles wouldn't have blown up a guy’s truck or gone back to that bar to revenge himself on a rude truck driver. They would have sung, “All You Need Is Love,” while running around the city at high speed, then climbed into a tiny car and driven away.
Crippling a truck driver doesn't jeopardize his livelihood?
And better yet, get the fuck out with "his livelihood is in jeopardize" due to the damage to his truck. If you're going to use that, then every time someone's home, vehicle, property, or even employer "jeopardizes" someone's livelihood.
That's grasping for a lifeline.
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You're assuming he was crippled. Rocky may have only sprained his hand, if that. It didn't seem to hurt when he punched Supes in the back of the skull during his previous assault. Supes also calmed the nerves of the establishment goers and kept the damage minimal.
MoS Clark probably traumatized the diners when they came outside to see this...
So when a depowered Kent got beat up, you expected him to still retain the density (even though the movie didn't) as when he was fully powered?
If you punch a concrete wall with all you have, are you only going to "sprain" your hand? Kent's density is much thicker then a concrete wall. I'm not buying Rocky's hand wouldn't be crippled.
When Lois was tracking down the mystery man, she interviewed the server at that truck stop. She didn't seem traumatized by what happened to the truck.
i always thought the Kent's upbringing was what made Clark Kent Superman and not Evilman... maybe I am focusing too much on the "you don't owe them anything" part...
You were correct.
And there was nothing supposed to be extraordinary about the Kents. They were just good, decent regular* folks, and their goodness, decency, regularity influenced their son.
*Insert obligatory poop joke here.
Which is why he'll always be "Clark Kent". He might have the biology of an alien, but he was raised human. He's susceptible to the same foibles as the rest of us.
Crippling a truck driver doesn't jeopardize his livelihood?
Except that Clark didn't do that to the driver -- the guy brought it on himself through his own actions -- actions that, if Clark hadn't been Superman, might have injured somebody else, perhaps to the point of jeopardizing their livelihoods.
Crippling a truck driver doesn't jeopardize his livelihood?
Except that Clark didn't do that to the driver -- the guy brought it on himself through his own actions -- actions that, if Clark hadn't been Superman, might have injured somebody else, perhaps to the point of jeopardizing their livelihoods.
He knew the end result. Kent could rolled with the punch (like when Batman punched him in Death in the Family) to avoid the damage. Instead he just stood there. Good thing he killed Zod, he would've suffered his crippling too.
There were zero injuries when the truck was hulk smashed up.
And if you follow the lyrics, she's totally the villain in that story. All that damage based on a "probably". Ted Wells must have done her investigation.
And if you follow the lyrics, she's totally the villain in that story. All that damage based on a "probably". Ted Wells must have done her investigation.
Im looking forward big time to this. But if you're WB.... Why would you release another trailer now? The comic con footage, while not a "trailer" has essentially become one and it's already wracking up tens of millions of views this week.
Why release this trailer which is just a shorter version of that, when you could wait a few months and keep earning buzz? They've basically taken all the wind out of this trailer because everyone just watched the comic con footage a few days ago ...
Crippling a truck driver doesn't jeopardize his livelihood?
Except that Clark didn't do that to the driver -- the guy brought it on himself through his own actions -- actions that, if Clark hadn't been Superman, might have injured somebody else, perhaps to the point of jeopardizing their livelihoods.
He knew the end result. Kent could rolled with the punch (like when Batman punched him in Death in the Family) to avoid the damage. Instead he just stood there.
Doesn't matter. End result is still the same: the guy brought it on himself. I find it very hard to criticize Superman for having no active part in that particular injury. Roll with the punch? Maybe he did, for all we know, even if the filmmaker didn't show it -- super-speed and all that; regardless, I don't think it mattered. The guy had a comeuppance coming and Superman / Clark delivered with minimal effort... and, frankly, with far less damage than you're giving credence to.
Crippling a truck driver doesn't jeopardize his livelihood?
Except that Clark didn't do that to the driver -- the guy brought it on himself through his own actions -- actions that, if Clark hadn't been Superman, might have injured somebody else, perhaps to the point of jeopardizing their livelihoods.
He knew the end result. Kent could rolled with the punch (like when Batman punched him in Death in the Family) to avoid the damage. Instead he just stood there.
Doesn't matter. End result is still the same: the guy brought it on himself. I find it very hard to criticize Superman for having no active part in that particular injury. Roll with the punch? Maybe he did, for all we know, even if the filmmaker didn't show it -- super-speed and all that; regardless, I don't think it mattered. The guy had a comeuppance coming and Superman / Clark delivered with minimal effort... and, frankly, with far less damage than you're giving credence to.
"He brought it on himself" isn't exactly what Pa would promote, would it? If that's the case, why not let villains perish at the devices of their own making?!
Rocky threw a punch at an unmovable object, how he have not been crippled? Again, he was severely injured. In MoS, it was just the guy's truck that sustained damage.
Rocky threw a punch at an unmovable object, how he have not been crippled? Again, he was severely injured. In MoS, it was just the guy's truck that sustained damage.
A few years ago, I flipped my motorcycle doing 50mph and slammed into an immovable object, the road. I was hospitalized for a week and it took a few weeks to recover, but I wasn't "crippled". It could have happened, but by the grace of God it didn't.
You're creating a situation based on a presumption he was "crippled" even though there is no evidence for that. "Rocky" could very likely drive with one good hand and a bandaged hand as long as his rig wasn't mangled like the one in MoS - that guy was also likely fired. Now Zod on the other hand was either crippled or he was killed, or both, in Superman 2. Entirely different situation.
Rocky threw a punch at an unmovable object, how he have not been crippled? Again, he was severely injured. In MoS, it was just the guy's truck that sustained damage.
A few years ago, I flipped my motorcycle doing 50mph and slammed into an immovable object, the road. I was hospitalized for a week and it took a few weeks to recover, but I wasn't "crippled". It could have happened, but by the grace of God it didn't.
You're creating a situation based on a presumption he was "crippled" even though there is no evidence for that. "Rocky" could very likely drive with one good hand and a bandaged hand as long as his rig wasn't mangled like the one in MoS - that guy was also likely fired. Now Zod on the other hand was either crippled or he was killed, or both, in Superman 2. Entirely different situation.
How's "creating a situation" any different from what you were doing bringing up "livelihood", "traumatizing" people, (and now) "getting fired" (where was it that he wasn't freelancing)?
We can only really go with what was seen; MoS had a destroyed truck. S2 had an injury to a dude. Rationalize the details for that injury all you want; he was still injured in the fight...in front of awestruck patrons.
It's not any different, but we could do this all day. We can either agree that we're both right - livelihoods were affected and a segment of the patrons were likely traumatized, or we can continue to pointlessly debate. I'm fine either way.
Also spending time and effort to create content that is about what is wrong with the trailer for a movie you haven't even seen yet? Is everything that is wrong with the Internet. At least when it comes to fan culture.
I love the Everything Wrong With trailer! Sure it's overly nitpicky but that's part of the fun. The part about Superman accepting their worship had me in stitches.
Meh, Zack Snyder has a visual flair that always cuts pretty well together in a trailer. But he's not much of a story teller. This trailer looked like a bunch of money shots but didn't really seem terribly cohesive as a story. Also, Martha Kent...
"He brought it on himself" isn't exactly what Pa would promote, would it? If that's the case, why not let villains perish at the devices of their own making?!
First of all, Pa Kent in the 70's Superman films was pretty much a different character than the Pa Kent in Man Of Steel -- and I think I've already expressed elsewhere how 'off-character' I thought the MOS version was.
Secondly, allowing a bully to hurt his hand through his own mischief is not the same thing as allowing villains to perish. They might do so anyway as a result of their own machinations, but that's not the same as allowing them to.
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And better yet, get the fuck out with "his livelihood is jeopardize" due to the damage to his truck. If you're going to use that, then every time someone's home, vehicle, property, or even employer is involved with damage it'll "jeopardize" someone's livelihood.
That's grasping for a lifeline.
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Just saying.
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And there was nothing supposed to be extraordinary about the Kents. They were just good, decent regular* folks, and their goodness, decency, regularity influenced their son.
*Insert obligatory poop joke here.
What? You said to.
MoS Clark probably traumatized the diners when they came outside to see this...
If you punch a concrete wall with all you have, are you only going to "sprain" your hand? Kent's density is much thicker then a concrete wall. I'm not buying Rocky's hand wouldn't be crippled.
When Lois was tracking down the mystery man, she interviewed the server at that truck stop. She didn't seem traumatized by what happened to the truck.
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There were zero injuries when the truck was hulk smashed up.
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Why release this trailer which is just a shorter version of that, when you could wait a few months and keep earning buzz? They've basically taken all the wind out of this trailer because everyone just watched the comic con footage a few days ago ...
Rocky threw a punch at an unmovable object, how he have not been crippled? Again, he was severely injured. In MoS, it was just the guy's truck that sustained damage.
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You're creating a situation based on a presumption he was "crippled" even though there is no evidence for that. "Rocky" could very likely drive with one good hand and a bandaged hand as long as his rig wasn't mangled like the one in MoS - that guy was also likely fired. Now Zod on the other hand was either crippled or he was killed, or both, in Superman 2. Entirely different situation.
We can only really go with what was seen; MoS had a destroyed truck. S2 had an injury to a dude. Rationalize the details for that injury all you want; he was still injured in the fight...in front of awestruck patrons.
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"Everything Wrong With" is usually just masturbatory sniping.*
*Warning: Do not visualize that phrase.
Secondly, allowing a bully to hurt his hand through his own mischief is not the same thing as allowing villains to perish. They might do so anyway as a result of their own machinations, but that's not the same as allowing them to.