Episode 1232 Talkback: Spotlight on Marvel in the 2000's Part Two
Pants
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I mostly skipped the Marvel Knights Captain America book, but I did come back toward the end for the two-parter story where he traveled to a parallel earth to team-up with the Isaiah Washington Cap, and then the concluding 4-parter by Kirkman, in which Kirkman was acting as a Mark Gruenwald tribute band. The good Gruenwald, though... Serpent Society and stuff, not Cap Wolf.
Thanks for the episode. Enjoy the mini hiatus.
Matthew
The best thing about Chuck Austen's run on the X-Men was that you get ludicrousness like this. Nightcrawler's father was trapped in another dimension and wanted to return to earth. I quite frankly don't completely remember how it was that he planned to break the barriers to get back to earth. I know it had something to do with poison communion wafers that would get the Catholic church to disintegrate so that they would think the rapture had happened even though the Catholic church doesn't believe in the rapture (Chuck Austen apparently had a hard on for Christianity and liked to attack it even though he usually didn't know what he was talking about). But whatever his plan was, it involved him setting something up on Earth - by sneaking over here and setting it up. So he came to earth to set up his plan that would allow him to come to earth since he couldn't come to earth. It reminded me of a 3 Stooges bit where they're trying to figure out how to break into this house. And Curly disappeared for a bit and comes back with a key and says "hey, how about we use this?" and Moe is surprised Curly was actually useful and he says "that's perfect, where'd you get it?" and Curly answers "It was on a table inside, the window was open."
Re: NYX/X-23.
I heard you refer to X-23 as Wolverine's daughter. She's not Wolverine's daughter. She's Wolverine's clone. So she really is just Wolverine with (underage) boobs.
(and I know any sane person is wondering the same question. Apparently, "they" tried to clone Wolverine a few times and it wasn't working and eventually they realized that what it was that was preventing the clones from surviving was in the Y chromosome so they removed it. Hence, a female clone of Wolverine.)
Murd, skip it. It will do nothing but break your little cosmic heart.
Chuck Austen is the worst comic writer I have ever read. His Avengers run surpasses his horrible X-Men run.
U-Decide was stupid but it got me back into comics. The relaunched Captain Marvel was the first book I had bought in almost 10 years. From there I started buying new issues and raiding back issue bins again. So, I don't hate the whole U-Decide stunt as much as some do.
According to Marvel, lots of Comic stores that cater to younger audiences didn't carry the MAX books at all.
How many times have we heard you guys complain that "new ideas" don't come from The Big 2?
Now if you wanna sound like all the other shows that recap different time periods you need to start the show with a recap that was happening in real life....."The year was 2000, The price of gas was a 1.30, Gladiator was the hit of the box office and The Supreme Court made George Bush President" :))
It's still miserable
Second, Wolverine/Doop is pure comic book goodness. You absolutely need to read it, Pants. Here’s a quote from Darwyn about it from the upcoming Modern Masters book:
“They wanted me to do a two-part fill-in for X-Force. I was reluctant, and Axel was like, ‘C’mon. What do you want to do? Whatever you want, Peter will work with you.’ So I said, ‘It has to be a double-sized one-shot and it’s the ultimate team-up: Wolverine and Doop.’ I was thinking, ‘This will shut them up. They’ll leave me alone now.’ There’s a pause on the phone, then Axel said, ‘Wow, that could work. Let me phone Peter.’ A half an hour later he called back and said, ‘Yeah, we’ll do it.’ I was like, ‘Oh, my God. Okay.’ [laughter] And then I panicked, so I threw a few more caveats in. I said, ‘It’s got to have a beautiful girl in it. And I want the story to take place in Toronto.’ God bless, Milligan. He took it and ran with it. The Pink Lady, Toronto—he didn’t care, and he wrote that absolutely insane story that still has some sort of throughline of rationality. It ended up being a riot. I think it speaks to the sort of myopic nature of fandom that that book isn’t more highly regarded, because I think it’s hilarious.”
A little surprised you guys didn't mention the negative fan reaction to Bendis's Avengers Disassembled. Those of us that were Avenger fans for years were shunted aside in favor of bringing in Spidey and Wolverine fans. I have tried several times over the past decade to read the Avengers but no matter what the title on the cover says that book just isn't The Avengers. I am soooooo happy that Bendis is finally leaving the book. I'm sure he'll kill or scar a few characters on his way out the door but hopefully someone like Christos Gage will be brought in to smooth over some of the out of character actions we've seen for the past 10 years.
Or akira!
Or death note!
Or nausicaa!!!!!!!!
Or iron wok jan!
Or hunter x hunter!
If it wasn't for Cap Wolf we would have never gotten Drunk Cap's classic line.