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Episode 1282 Talkback: Avengers vs X-Men Issue 12 Call In Show
Pants
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It's the final issue of the Avengers vs X-Men series. How did it end and what are it's repercussions for the Marvel Universe? We give our thought on the issue and take some phone calls from our listeners to hear what they think. (1:22:05)
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As for the AvX #12, it fell flat for me.
The final fight with Cyclops went by too fast. In the previous issues you could sense the desperation that Cap and the Avengers were at, and that was missing. This fight did not live up to its true stature.
The ending with Hope and Wanda also seemed to much of an easy ending. I feel cheated. I didn't feel like there was any kind of real struggle, I got no sense that this was a fight for the fate of the world.
I can't say what i would have done differently, but it just wasn't as good as the previous issues. Maybe they should have saved Xavier's death for this issue, I don't know.
Matthew
That's all I will say on the ComicGeekSpeak forum. Perhaps if there is a PoliticsGeekSpeak site out there I can post threads to storm both fronts.
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I think Joe Q had to do something about what Morrison was doing. Under Morrison's run the mutant population exploded. It was looking like homo sapien would be completely replaced within 2-3 generations. So while I understand that it got out of hands I feel like they totally went too far in the opposite direction.
Still listening to the ep buuuuut...
The Cuckoos are also part technological as well, they're bones are cybernetic. Actually they are Weapon IVX...I think. I get the numbers mixed up.
The 198 was the gang of mutants that was being detained at the mansion post M-Day, there was something like 300 mutants left. I hate how this got twisted.
I highly suggested everyone read Uncanny X-Men #19
But sooooo true. The Avengers really pushed the Phoenix Five into the dark zone.
CGS Matt, did you even listen to the episode? Pants talked about the debate & the importance of the debate. As for your stupid comments I am going to say this once.
I enjoyed the CGS episode more than the debates & I stayed as such, that is all. You have to turn everything inside out on my opinions & comments. The next time you want to say something just don't. I strongly suggest you take this advice.
Matthew
As for your bolded threat; seriously? Seriously? Do I even NEED to post how I handle threats & ultimatums?!
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Matthew
Drunk Cap was an awesome surprise!
I'm looking forward to hearing Jamie's thoughts on the issue.
Speaking of comments, did anyone catch my joke about the debate? No one liked it? I know Pants glossed over it. I thought it was funny.
No?
I'm going to go hide in a cave now.
Great show overall and suddenly at the end Drunk Cap made the episode even better.
I haven't read a single issue of AvX but I've had the hardcover preordered for a while now and will enjoy cracking it open to read the whole thing about a month from now. I always enjoy the CGS episodes about events, whether I'm reading them or not.
Lastly, about the political stuff, all I can say is that I appreciated the non-partisanship on the episode, and I appreciate it whenever people can refrain from partisanship on the message boards. That's not to say that I think people should be non-political. If they really are compelled to say something against one of the candidates, then it's their free speech to make whatever comment they want to, even on a non-political forum. But as someone who isn't going to vote for either candidate, I really appreciate media like CGS where I can usually unplug from the political fervor. It's all surely important stuff, and it isn't as though I hate politics, but a potshot against one of the candidates always has me, personally, rolling my eyes and thinking "As if the other guy is that much better?" Again, that's just my view. All I'm really trying to say is that for the next month or so, though I can't expect anyone much less EVERYone to stay nonpolitical all the time, I will appreciate it whenever people can refrain from potshots.