CGS Best of 2012 Awards Nominations: Categories, Voting and Rules

David_D

CourtOfOwls said:

Oh, & since the subject of rating a person's comments has come up, I am new to the forums and am completely baffled by the points system.

Since someone marked my comments on CGS Best Of as "off topic" even though it is ON TOPIC because it is a "best of" and the comments are related to that, I am SURE this particular comment will also be rated as "off topic" because, in THIS case, it likely IS off topic. However, I am not sure who and/or how and/or where to ask the following questions. This seems as good a place as any:

I noticed that, when I get badges, I get points. What are the points used for? Is there some sort of contest? Do you get prizes? Is their a points goal or end-game? Is this supposed to be a competition? If so, how do you see other people's points?

I also noticed that, when someone rates your comment in a perceived negative way (ie "off topic", "dislike", or disagree"), points are taken away. Why doesn't the person posting the apparently negative comments have points deducted? Or, DOES that person get points deducted as well? Who is to say that the person who rated a comment as "dislike" isn't just a scum sucking bastard looking to hurt people and HE/SHE is the one who deserves to lose points, while his/her victim should GET points? What makes the person with the negative comments point of view more relevant than the person who received that negative comment?

Finally, what happens when a person loses all of their points (should they have had any to begin with)? Do you get kicked off the forums? Start over?

Sorry to be "off topic", but as I said, I am new here on the forum and have no understanding of the game. I look to you "old timers" to show compassion & support by filling me in so I shall be clueless no longer. Either that, or you can all jump on my shit, rate this as "off topic", "dislike", and/or "disagree" and make me lose all of my valuable points! Then I will fade away into oblivion and you won't have Court Of Owls to kick around any more. :(

But then again, maybe that's the idea.

The point system is something built into the system by the people who make Vanilla Forums, the forum product that CGS chose to use. Here is more from the Vanilla Forum developers as far as what the reputation system and reactions are meant to add.

Regarding what the points are for, or what happens if someone is at or falls below zero, you can set up a Vanilla Forum to have points lead to certain effects (e.g. locking up certain functionality until a certain number of points are reached; losing the ability to post if points fall below zero, etc.), but CGS has not set up this forum that way. So I would say that the amount of points you have is not something to pay too much attention to.

I hope that helps.

David_D

CourtOfOwls said:

@Matt said

I've been lobbying for a way to have comments added to the "dislike" choice. I understand people disagreeing with opinions, but I'm baffled at people 'disliking' another's opinion.

"Dislike" strikes me as particularly harsh - especially in regard to someone's opinion on forum such as this. Unless someone is posting hate speech, being rascist or abusive, etc., it seems very intolerant to "dislike" someone's opinion. In my mind, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and should be free to express it. One can "disagree" with someone's opinion, but to "dislike" someone's opinion is silly.

I agree, @Matt, far better - & more appropriate - to "disagree". Especially when the forums do not allow for people to expand on their "dislike" or "disagree" by being able to indicate what it is they are disliking or disagreeing with. By just clicking, "dislike", it appears that the ENTIRE post is disliked. Which could be the case, but not necessarily.

On a related topic, I think it would be great to be able to identify the people who rate your comments. I understand that egos can be hurt, violence could break out, a tit-for-tat "dislike" war could start. However, it is also a good way to start and/or continue a conversation with others who took the time to read and comment on your post. At the very least, it would be nice to know who "liked" your comments. Surely no one would kill you over THAT!! lol

Personally, I agree that "dislike" is too strong of a reaction to something you merely disagree with. For those that want to use the reaction buttons, that is what "disagree" is for.

I think where "dislike" is relevant is when the behavior of the poster is to be disliked. Which is to say, that it is not that they simply hold a different opinion than you, but rather that you feel they are being unnecessarily uncivil, cruel, antagonistic, or abusive. To me, there is (fortunately rarely) behavior that is worthy of being dissuaded. If someone behaves in a certain way and a number of members in the community dislike it, that says something. (And the same is true when a post gets a substantial positive reaction, that says something, too).

That said, as with all reaction button use (be it negative or positive) it is always best to follow up the click of a reaction with a post of words, as there will always be more to interpret there.

That said, there are those that seem to use the reaction buttons arbitrarily, and even satirically. Best not to spend too much time on any of those outlier reactions (which is to say, 1 "dislike" that seems to make no sense) as you may be putting more thought into it than the person who clicked it did.

David_D

And now, back to the topic, a not-yet-complete ballot in progress subject to change:

BEST NEW HERO (debut in 2012)

BEST NEW VILLAIN (debut in 2012) Negan, The Walking Dead

BEST NEW COMIC (#1 shipped in 2012) Saga

BEST LIMITED SERIES (that finished in 2012)

BEST SINGLE ISSUE OR ONESHOT (usually under 80 pages)

BEST CLIFFHANGER OR MOMENT Amazing Spider-Man 698

BEST STORY IN A SERIES OR MULTIPLE SERIES

BEST SLEEPER/SURPRISE HIT Hawkeye

BEST ONGOING COMIC (doesn't have to start in 2012) Walking Dead

BEST REPRINT COLLECTION (trade, hardcover, Absolute, Omnibus, Essential, Showcase, etc.)

BEST ORIGINAL GRAPHIC NOVEL Parker: The Score

BEST PUBLICATION ABOUT COMICS (Print) N/A

BEST WRITER Brian K. Vaughan

BEST ARTIST Francesco Francavilla

BEST WRITER/ARTIST (individual that does both) Jeff Lemire

BEST INKER

BEST COLOR ARTIST

BEST LETTERER

BEST EDITOR

BEST COVER ARTIST

BREAKTHROUGH TALENT OF 2012 Fiona Staples

BEST COMIC PROJECT IN ANOTHER MEDIUM (movie, TV, toys, novels, etc.)

MOST IMPORTANT NEWS OF 2012 Karen Berger to leave Vertigo

MOST ANTICIPATED FOR 2013 Multiversity

BEST REVAMP OF AN EXISTING CHARACTER OR CONCEPT

CourtOfOwls

@David_D Thanks for that info! That was very helpful. I appreciate your taking the time to explain the history of the point system. We now return to our regularly scheduled programming.

luckymustard

BEST NEW HERO (debut in 2012)
- Talon - Calvin Rose

BEST NEW VILLAIN (debut in 2012)
- Negan - Walkind Dead

BEST NEW COMIC (#1 shipped in 2012)
- Revival

BEST LIMITED SERIES (that finished in 2012)

BEST SINGLE ISSUE OR ONESHOT (usually under 80 pages)
- Walking Dead #100

BEST CLIFFHANGER OR MOMENT
- Walking Dead #100

BEST STORY IN A SERIES OR MULTIPLE SERIES
- Night of the Owls

BEST SLEEPER/SURPRISE HIT

BEST ONGOING COMIC (doesn't have to start in 2012)
- Batman

BEST REPRINT COLLECTION (trade, hardcover, Absolute, Omnibus, Essential, Showcase, etc.)

BEST ORIGINAL GRAPHIC NOVEL
- Batman: Earth One

BEST PUBLICATION ABOUT COMICS (Print)
- Bleeding Cool Magazine

BEST WRITER
- Scott Snyder

BEST ARTIST
- Greg Capullo

BEST WRITER/ARTIST (individual that does both)
- Jeff Lemire

BEST INKER
- Jonathan Glapion

BEST COLOR ARTIST
- Nei Ruffino

BEST LETTERER
- Death in the Family letterers (main Batman title's letterer are Comicraft, James Betancourt, and Richard Alan Starkings - Consistent Joker lettering throughout all the crossover books. Is this a more attributable accomplishment that should be credited to next category, Best Editor?

BEST EDITOR
- See Best Letterer above - Mike Marts and Katie Kubert

BEST COVER ARTIST
- Alex Ross

BREAKTHROUGH TALENT OF 2012 (doesn't have to have their first work in 2012)
- Becky Cloonan

BEST COMIC PROJECT IN ANOTHER MEDIUM (movie, TV, toys, novels, etc.)
- Dark Knight Rises

MOST IMPORTANT NEWS OF 2012
- New Star Wars movies to start in 2015 with Episode VII

MOST ANTICIPATED FOR 2013
- Multiversity

BEST REVAMP OF AN EXISTING CHARACTER OR CONCEPT

Pants

Thanks to everyone who sent in your nominations.