JUSTICE LEAGUE DARK To Star In 18 Part Crossover!!

Chuck_Melville

Beginning this month and running on and on through March, an 18-part story will run through Justice League Dark, Constantine, Trinity Of Sin: Phantom Stranger, and Trinity Of Sin: Pandora.

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I am ever so glad that I dropped all of these books from my list.

Mr_Cosmic

"Forever Evil: Blight," as the title implies, is set to introduce a new antagonist named Blight, described by DC editor-in-chief Bob Harras as the physical manifestation of the "significantly enhanced the levels of evil in the universe."

It makes no sense!

Chuck_Melville

Mr_Cosmic said:

It makes no sense!

It is so New52!

CaptShazam

If they want it to sell they need it to be "Forever Evil Blight - starring Batman"

David_D

Wait-- "Trinity of Sin: Pandora" and "Trinity of Sin: Phantom Stranger" are ongoings??

Well, may whoever enjoys them enjoy this.

Chuck_Melville

David_D said:

Wait-- "Trinity of Sin: Pandora" and "Trinity of Sin: Phantom Stranger" are ongoings??

Well, may whoever enjoys them enjoy this.

The Phantom Stranger book was retitled to add the Trinity Of Sin header just before the Trinity War started, most likely to reflect the fact that, in the New52, he was part of the triumvirate that the world's leading mages considered to be the worst sinners in existence. If they ever decide to give the Question his own book again, it will very likely have the same header.

Just another reason why I'm not getting these books anymore.

luke52

I too have dropped these two Trinity of Sin titles. To be honest Phantom Stranger was pretty good. Pandora was pretty average. Trinity War turned out being a good dropping off point for me. Image will have two more comics sold a month as a result.

Hellsfire

Justice League Dark is one of two new-52 books I still read. I was very close to dropping it when it was part of that vampire crossover. I may drop it because of this crossover, depending on how the book reads when I don't read the other parts.

peedmyself

I really liked JLD, but this will probably kill it for me. The Creeper book was garbage, and I tossed it after a few pages. I gave Constantine a try, but it was bad. The other two have no hope.

SolitaireRose

A 18 part crossover, complete with a map, and a bunch of titles with tenuous connection, because the comics world has been missing them since Maximum Carnage, Fall of the Mutants and all of the other "classics". Let me guess, every part is written by someone different, will probably have special covers and at the end, no one will be able to tell you what the plot thread was other than "This new bad guy showed up and people punched him a lot.

I'll say this: DC has a hell of a lot of balls.

EarthGBilly

Heh.


Ha ha.


Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!

Oh, DC, you've done it again! I hear your news announcements, and all I think is, "Whew! Dodged that bullet!"



Just leave my Wonder Woman and Animal Man alone, and we'll be fine.

Torchsong

Justice League Dark was one of those books I *wanted* to be good...hell it even referenced Joan Armatrading in one of the early issues (which would be a slam dunk for this Joan fan)...but it just never seemed to click with me.

I will echo SR's comment - there's some mighty big cojones being swung about down DC comics way...

tommysheroes

I dont know, I think this sounds kind of cool. Im not reading these titles so I wont read it but if titles I read had an eighteen part crossover I would be kind of pumped. Big stories can be pretty fun and exciting.

Chuck_Melville

tommysheroes said:

I dont know, I think this sounds kind of cool. Im not reading these titles so I wont read it but if titles I read had an eighteen part crossover I would be kind of pumped. Big stories can be pretty fun and exciting.

But it seems very much like DC's current plan is to continuously wheel from one big story to another without any real breaks along the way. This one's coming off of Forever Evil, which is coming off of The Trinity War, etc. ad nauseum. I very much miss the small stories, done in one, with resolutions and everything.

tommysheroes

Yeah I think its just a difference in taste. I like a done and one story as a special event, a really well done short tale once every year or two. I much prefer all my comics to be longer multi part stories. If comics told month after month one and done stories, I wouldnt read.

Chuck_Melville

tommysheroes said:

Yeah I think its just a difference in taste. I like a done and one story as a special event, a really well done short tale once every year or two. I much prefer all my comics to be longer multi part stories. If comics told month after month one and done stories, I wouldnt read.

Whereas, I'm just the opposite. I'm sick of stories that just go on and on. I mean, I like the big stories and the special events, but they used to come once a year and took some time to build up to it. They were special then. Now, they're a dime a dozen, badly padded in order to fill out a trade collection, exhausting, and, to be blunt, not all that interesting. At least, DC's aren't. Not anymore. I'm getting more of an electric thrill out of Marvel's Infinity than I ever got out of the Trinity War -- which is right where I dropped the JLA books from my buy list. (And although Marvel's big events are currently better, they're just as guilty of cranking them out on a continual basis without pause.)

I can't help but compare the current JLA books to the run of the original series of the 60's. The current series are all up to issue 24. Know what you got out of the first 24 issues of the original Justice League of America? 22 memorable stories -- including two two-parters (which were rare at the time), and the first JLA-JSA team-up. What have we got so far out of the current series? Three or four stories apiece, most of which not worth the breath it takes to talk about them. And no resolution, as the stories keep cranking on without pause.

Seriously, I have never seen more unmemorable books or stories than what DC's been cranking out over the past couple of years.

Peter

tommysheroes said:

I dont know, I think this sounds kind of cool. Im not reading these titles so I wont read it but if titles I read had an eighteen part crossover I would be kind of pumped. Big stories can be pretty fun and exciting.

Right there with you. Avengers Operation Galactic Storm. X-Men Second Coming. Our Worlds at War. Batman No Man's Land. Inter-family title crossovers are a sweet spot. Plus, look at the writers (if they are the ones behind it all): two indie guys and a veteran. Some readers say they want diversity in their creative teams - put up or shut up. ;)

Chuck_Melville

Peter said:

tommysheroes said:

I dont know, I think this sounds kind of cool. Im not reading these titles so I wont read it but if titles I read had an eighteen part crossover I would be kind of pumped. Big stories can be pretty fun and exciting.

Right there with you. Avengers Operation Galactic Storm. X-Men Second Coming. Our Worlds at War. Batman No Man's Land.

You almost lost me right there with the inclusion of Our Worlds At War, which I'd previously (before the New52) considered to be DC's worst crossover event, certainly one of the most bloated messes I'd read since Marvel's Maximum Carnage, both of which just go to prove my point. And, in spite of the fact that it dominated all of the Bat-books for about a year, I don't really consider No Man's Land to be in the same category as the general crossover, but rather a series of smaller stories and story arcs that took place around a specific event, as opposed to a large rambling story. I know that might be splitting hairs a mite, but it was pretty much self-contained with extremely little spillover into the other DC titles.

Operation Galactic Storm is one of the exceptions: it was a great story and very well-executed, and proves that long stories can be done and be done well. Unfortunately, few ever achieve that goal.

I can't comment at all on Second Coming; never read it.

DennisCuzinski

I adored Galactic Storm!

Mr_Cosmic

Chuck_Melville said:

Peter said:

tommysheroes said:

I dont know, I think this sounds kind of cool. Im not reading these titles so I wont read it but if titles I read had an eighteen part crossover I would be kind of pumped. Big stories can be pretty fun and exciting.

Right there with you. Avengers Operation Galactic Storm. X-Men Second Coming. Our Worlds at War. Batman No Man's Land.

You almost lost me right there with the inclusion of Our Worlds At War, which I'd previously (before the New52) considered to be DC's worst crossover event, certainly one of the most bloated messes I'd read since Marvel's Maximum Carnage, both of which just go to prove my point.

I have the massive TPB sitting on my shelf with the book mark sticking out from the middle of it...it's been like that for months.

Peter

DennisCuzinski said:

I adored Galactic Storm!

As did/do I. Collected it off the shelf at the time, sold it on Ebay years later for a whopping $100, and have since collected a second run from back issue bins which is awaiting another read thru. Crossover events capture eyes because they feel as if they "matter". I wasn't collecting any of those titles when Galactic Storm ran - but for those 18-20 issues, they had me. I think I might've stayed on for Quasar and Wonder Man afterwards as well. So from a business standpoint, it did its job. As do many of the long-form crossovers that matter: sell books, get people talking, shake up the status quo. The list is long and great.

SolitaireRose

DennisCuzinski said:

I adored Galactic Storm!

That was the story that made me drop the Avengers after about 20 years. Ugly, ugly art and characters acting out of character. It took Busiek to bring me back.

Peter

If by ugly you mean 'awesome, raw, brown-jacket wearing, Steve Epting' art - I'll take it over his flat New Avengers stuff all the time. haha. Sure, this was a definite change in the air for the group but it started before this storyline. Just in case anyone was thinking this storyline was the catalyst. Definitely jumped on to the Busiek/Perez run as well, but they wouldn't have produced the same kind of work in 1992 that they did in 1998. Different times, different corporate decrees. Even as good as the Busiek/Perez stuff was, I sold those issues long time back - but OGStorm is still in my collection.

Just taking the heat off of the storyline itself. Because it rocked, even if the Rose was off the bloom a bit. (See what I did there?) ;)

And here's J.M. DeMatteis' take on the Blight story:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=48356

SolitaireRose

Peter said:

If by ugly you mean 'awesome, raw, brown-jacket wearing, Steve Epting' art - I'll take it over his flat New Avengers stuff all the time. haha. Sure, this was a definite change in the air for the group but it started before this storyline. Just in case anyone was thinking this storyline was the catalyst. Definitely jumped on to the Busiek/Perez run as well, but they wouldn't have produced the same kind of work in 1992 that they did in 1998. Different times, different corporate decrees. Even as good as the Busiek/Perez stuff was, I sold those issues long time back - but OGStorm is still in my collection.

Just taking the heat off of the storyline itself. Because it rocked, even if the Rose was off the bloom a bit. (See what I did there?) ;)

And here's J.M. DeMatteis' take on the Blight story:
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=48356

Different strokes. For me, those awful Bob Harris helmed crossovers drove me away from Marvel until Quesada brought me back with Marvel Knights. He drove me off the X-Men, he drove me off the Avengers, and his meddling made the Clone Saga EVEN longer and worse.

But I realize that some people liked them because they sold.

However, if you try to tell me that Secret Wars II, Team America and US 1 are great books, I'll know you are just messing with me.

Peter

Oh no - those can't be defended at all. Execution and history have pushed them into "guilty pleasure" or worse categories. Ha.

Torchsong

SolitaireRose said:

However, if you try to tell me that Secret Wars II, Team America and US 1 are great books, I'll know you are just messing with me.

You sonofoabitch! Motocross will come back someday! You'll see! YOU'LL ALL SEE!!!

mwhitt80

SR I know you are not crap US Archer and his amazing big rig. The man had a cb radio implanted in his skull. The US-1 can fly in space. Greatest comicbook about trucking that has ever been told.