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DC developing Suicide Squad, Team 7, Deathstroke and Booster Gold films

m.hitfix.com/news/david-goyer-and-dc-developing-low-budget-suicide-squad-team-7-more

Excited, but I'm not holding my breath. Guess this means a SyFy Booster Gold series is out. It worries me that they are already touting them as "low-budget" though. Still, I'd live a Suicide Squad movie, especially if it's inspired by Ostrander's run.
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  • random73random73 Posts: 2,318
    Booster Gold has always been a favorite of mine but I am leery about a film version missing some of the nuance that makes the character work for me. I do not want to see some vapid CW pretty boy. Or at least the character cannot remain A vapid CW pretty boy. I want to see the guardian of the time stream disguised as a moron. I don't want him to actually BE a moron.
  • jaydee74jaydee74 Posts: 1,526
    Um. Interesting. I guess. I don't have a whole lot of faith but it's great that they are putting faith into other characters and giving them a chance to shine. I'll be curious to see how far into the creative process these projects go.
  • Mr_CosmicMr_Cosmic Posts: 3,200

    especially if it's inspired by Ostrander's run.

    Nope, get ready for the nu52 squad.

  • mwhitt80mwhitt80 Posts: 4,637
    If they were to make Team 7 an R rated movie it could be really good, but I'm not sure they would.
  • WetRatsWetRats Posts: 6,314
    Booster Gold, taken back to the original concept of a low-rent, money & glory-grubbing hero, has a lot of potential for a film. What he has evolved into, while great, is nowhere as easy to adapt, or as easy to sell to an audience.
  • MattMatt Posts: 4,457
    This is NOT a complaint (let me preface that right away), but doesn't it feel like DC always seems to be trying to work a Booster series? I'm probably way off, but I feel like DC is really pushing to have the character in movies or TV series.

    Since DC is struggling to get out any character who isn't from a destroyed planet or a billionaire orphan, we'll see if this gets any momentum for fruition.

    M
  • WetRatsWetRats Posts: 6,314
    For a Suicide Squad project to work, supervillains would need to survive encountering superheroes long enough to end up in prison.

    With the exception of Loki, when does that happen?
  • WetRatsWetRats Posts: 6,314
    Team 7?

    Could they find a less-interesting title?

    Well... they're a team, see... and there's SEVEN of them!

    "Team 7: When all the good names are taken!"
  • MattMatt Posts: 4,457
    WetRats said:

    For a Suicide Squad project to work, supervillains would need to survive encountering superheroes long enough to end up in prison.

    With the exception of Loki, when does that happen?

    Like Scarecrow? Mr. Zsasz? Justin Hammer?

    M
  • playdohsrepublicplaydohsrepublic Posts: 1,377
    edited December 2013
    WetRats said:

    For a Suicide Squad project to work, supervillains would need to survive encountering superheroes long enough to end up in prison.

    With the exception of Loki, when does that happen?


    Scarecrow- Batman Begins
    Joker- TDK
    Sandman- Spider-man 3
    The Abomination- Incredible Hulk
    Magneto and most of the mutant villians- the x-men franchise
    There's a decent argument to be made That Red Skull survived- Captain America.
    Riddler- Batman Forever.
    Everyone in Batman and Robin
    Kingpin and Bullseye- Daredevil
    Doctor Doom- Fantastic Four
    Curt Conners- Amazing Spider-Man

    So, a lot actually.
  • WetRatsWetRats Posts: 6,314
    Matt said:

    WetRats said:

    For a Suicide Squad project to work, supervillains would need to survive encountering superheroes long enough to end up in prison.

    With the exception of Loki, when does that happen?

    Like Scarecrow? Mr. Zsasz? Justin Hammer?

    M
    Scarecrow: Couldn't remember if he survived or not.

    Justin Hammer: Not really a supervillain, just an antagonist.

    Who's Mr. Zsasz?
  • MattMatt Posts: 4,457
    WetRats said:

    Matt said:

    WetRats said:

    For a Suicide Squad project to work, supervillains would need to survive encountering superheroes long enough to end up in prison.

    With the exception of Loki, when does that happen?

    Like Scarecrow? Mr. Zsasz? Justin Hammer?

    M
    Scarecrow: Couldn't remember if he survived or not.

    Justin Hammer: Not really a supervillain, just an antagonist.

    Who's Mr. Zsasz?
    He's a serial killer who cuts himself with the same knife (his weapon of choice) used to kill his victims. His body is covered in tally marks.

    He appeared in Batman Begins; Crane was justifying on the stand why Zsasz should be in Arkham. He later appeared during the inmate escape.

    M
  • hauberkhauberk Posts: 1,511
    random73 said:

    Booster Gold has always been a favorite of mine but I am leery about a film version missing some of the nuance that makes the character work for me. I do not want to see some vapid CW pretty boy. Or at least the character cannot remain A vapid CW pretty boy. I want to see the guardian of the time stream disguised as a moron. I don't want him to actually BE a moron.

    Concur 100%. There a whole franchise begging to happen with Booster defending different eras against revision.

    In all honesty, I could see myself throwing cash down to see any and all of them. Deathblow seems like the hardest one to make stand out as the solo ubermensch military operator has been done over and over again.
  • mwhitt80mwhitt80 Posts: 4,637
    hauberk said:

    Deathblow seems like the hardest one to make stand out as the solo ubermensch military operator has been done over and over again.

    Deathblow and Team7 seem like they are the 2 most likly to have a good movie. Those 2 seem the hardest to mess up and the easiest to make into really good action movies. Team7 would be the super elite CIA kill squad where characters could be spun out of. Deathblow could be a great Bourne type movie only the character has incurrable brain cancer and is out for answers/revenge.

    I would in on them like crazy.
  • mwhitt80 said:

    hauberk said:

    Deathblow seems like the hardest one to make stand out as the solo ubermensch military operator has been done over and over again.

    Deathblow and Team7 seem like they are the 2 most likly to have a good movie. Those 2 seem the hardest to mess up and the easiest to make into really good action movies. Team7 would be the super elite CIA kill squad where characters could be spun out of. Deathblow could be a great Bourne type movie only the character has incurrable brain cancer and is out for answers/revenge.

    I would in on them like crazy.
    I think Suicide Squad is the easiest to make good. The behind enemy lines, Dirty Dozen formula makes for good drama and action while the title pretty much explains everything you need to know.

    "Booster Gold" on the other hand... What the fudge is that even. Is that a beer? Car battery? Vitamin Supplement? I think it's an impossible sell to people who've never seen a Booster Gold before.
  • TorchsongTorchsong Posts: 2,794
    Do it right and Suicide Squad could be everything Agents of SHIELD is not if they skipped the movie and went the TV route.

    Pull in a core cast that can't get killed (Rick Flag, Deadshot, Boomerang, Nightshade, Vixen) and a whole bunch of them who can (Vertigo (from Arrow!), Enchantress, Tiger, etc.) and you've got an episodic show that would be the epitome of "No One Is Safe". Pull a Whedon and get people to like a character then off them a la LOST.

    I'd even tolerate skinny Amanda Waller if you get Angela Bassett to reprise the role. :)


  • HexHex Posts: 944

    "Booster Gold" on the other hand... What the fudge is that even. Is that a beer?

    Of course it is a beer! He is Canadian after all!
  • hauberkhauberk Posts: 1,511
    mwhitt80 said:

    hauberk said:

    Deathblow seems like the hardest one to make stand out as the solo ubermensch military operator has been done over and over again.

    Deathblow and Team7 seem like they are the 2 most likly to have a good movie. Those 2 seem the hardest to mess up and the easiest to make into really good action movies. Team7 would be the super elite CIA kill squad where characters could be spun out of. Deathblow could be a great Bourne type movie only the character has incurrable brain cancer and is out for answers/revenge.

    I would in on them like crazy.
    I agree. Easy to make into a great action movie. Much harder to make into something that is definitive DC. As you say, we've seen Deathblow over and over in things like the Bourne movies, First Blood, Missing in Action.... We've also seen Team 7 over and over. The real key is the blending of the traditional special forces operator/team with the superhero world (and not end up as a copy of M:AoS.
    Torchsong said:

    Do it right and Suicide Squad could be everything Agents of SHIELD is not if they skipped the movie and went the TV route.

    Pull in a core cast that can't get killed (Rick Flag, Deadshot, Boomerang, Nightshade, Vixen) and a whole bunch of them who can (Vertigo (from Arrow!), Enchantress, Tiger, etc.) and you've got an episodic show that would be the epitome of "No One Is Safe". Pull a Whedon and get people to like a character then off them a la LOST.

    I'd even tolerate skinny Amanda Waller if you get Angela Bassett to reprise the role. :)


    100% this! Bronze Tiger has also appeared on Arrow.

  • random73random73 Posts: 2,318
    http://m.collider.com/collider/#!/entry/gal-gadot-to-play-wonder-woman-in-batman-vs-superman,529f6c89025312186c977288

    mwhitt80 said:

    hauberk said:

    Deathblow seems like the hardest one to make stand out as the solo ubermensch military operator has been done over and over again.

    Deathblow and Team7 seem like they are the 2 most likly to have a good movie. Those 2 seem the hardest to mess up and the easiest to make into really good action movies. Team7 would be the super elite CIA kill squad where characters could be spun out of. Deathblow could be a great Bourne type movie only the character has incurrable brain cancer and is out for answers/revenge.

    I would in on them like crazy.
    I think Suicide Squad is the easiest to make good. The behind enemy lines, Dirty Dozen formula makes for good drama and action while the title pretty much explains everything you need to know.

    "Booster Gold" on the other hand... What the fudge is that even. Is that a beer? Car battery? Vitamin Supplement? I think it's an impossible sell to people who've never seen a Booster Gold before.
    i like Booster. When I was a kid he was the first comic hero I got in on from issue one. Sure there are some fairly ridiculous elements to Booster (the name Booster for example) but if we started nit picking every comic hero's ridiculous bits then every comic universe out there, Marvel, DC et al would unravel into a pile of semi-Freudian silliness.
  • random73 said:

    http://m.collider.com/collider/#!/entry/gal-gadot-to-play-wonder-woman-in-batman-vs-superman,529f6c89025312186c977288

    mwhitt80 said:

    hauberk said:

    Deathblow seems like the hardest one to make stand out as the solo ubermensch military operator has been done over and over again.

    Deathblow and Team7 seem like they are the 2 most likly to have a good movie. Those 2 seem the hardest to mess up and the easiest to make into really good action movies. Team7 would be the super elite CIA kill squad where characters could be spun out of. Deathblow could be a great Bourne type movie only the character has incurrable brain cancer and is out for answers/revenge.

    I would in on them like crazy.
    I think Suicide Squad is the easiest to make good. The behind enemy lines, Dirty Dozen formula makes for good drama and action while the title pretty much explains everything you need to know.

    "Booster Gold" on the other hand... What the fudge is that even. Is that a beer? Car battery? Vitamin Supplement? I think it's an impossible sell to people who've never seen a Booster Gold before.
    i like Booster. When I was a kid he was the first comic hero I got in on from issue one. Sure there are some fairly ridiculous elements to Booster (the name Booster for example) but if we started nit picking every comic hero's ridiculous bits then every comic universe out there, Marvel, DC et al would unravel into a pile of semi-Freudian silliness.

    I have no issue with the character of Booster Gold. I think he's great and a lot of people recognize it, otherwise he would not be this perpetual adaptation bridesmaid. But I don't think he's any more sellable than Jonah Hex, who's movie didn't fail because of the quality (it's a factor) but because no one knew what that movie was about except that maybe it took place in the old west.
  • TorchsongTorchsong Posts: 2,794
    Booster Gold could totally work if they stick with a few things -

    1) Make it funny. Booster Gold is a comedy at its heart. The story is right there in the comic - a kid wants to make it at all costs, cheats to get there, gets caught, learns nothing from the experience, and tries to go back in time to fix things and still get famous in the process. It's relevant to our times - who hasn't read an article lately about people who want to be famous but don't want to put in the hours to become so? So you throw in a theme of "Learning what it means to be a hero." and you have a great movie people will relate to.

    2) Pacify the new crowd. Get (and pay for) an actor people will go see regardless of what he's in. If he wasn't too old already Owen Wilson would make a perfect Booster. He can pull off the goofiness of the character, while bringing seriousness in when needed. Chris Evans could do it now, but he's pretty much playing every superhero in the book. :)

    3) Pacify the old crowd. Give us a working, funny Skeets. Give the Blue Beetle a cameo/backup role. Use slogans from the comic to promote the movie ("Go for the Gold - Booster Gold") Have the actor do advertisements in character.

    Gee...now I kinda want to see this happen. :)


  • random73random73 Posts: 2,318

    random73 said:

    http://m.collider.com/collider/#!/entry/gal-gadot-to-play-wonder-woman-in-batman-vs-superman,529f6c89025312186c977288

    mwhitt80 said:

    hauberk said:

    Deathblow seems like the hardest one to make stand out as the solo ubermensch military operator has been done over and over again.

    Deathblow and Team7 seem like they are the 2 most likly to have a good movie. Those 2 seem the hardest to mess up and the easiest to make into really good action movies. Team7 would be the super elite CIA kill squad where characters could be spun out of. Deathblow could be a great Bourne type movie only the character has incurrable brain cancer and is out for answers/revenge.

    I would in on them like crazy.
    I think Suicide Squad is the easiest to make good. The behind enemy lines, Dirty Dozen formula makes for good drama and action while the title pretty much explains everything you need to know.

    "Booster Gold" on the other hand... What the fudge is that even. Is that a beer? Car battery? Vitamin Supplement? I think it's an impossible sell to people who've never seen a Booster Gold before.
    i like Booster. When I was a kid he was the first comic hero I got in on from issue one. Sure there are some fairly ridiculous elements to Booster (the name Booster for example) but if we started nit picking every comic hero's ridiculous bits then every comic universe out there, Marvel, DC et al would unravel into a pile of semi-Freudian silliness.

    I have no issue with the character of Booster Gold. I think he's great and a lot of people recognize it, otherwise he would not be this perpetual adaptation bridesmaid. But I don't think he's any more sellable than Jonah Hex, who's movie didn't fail because of the quality (it's a factor) but because no one knew what that movie was about except that maybe it took place in the old west.
    I agree. The quality was certainly a part of it but fundamentally, I think Jonah Hex failed for the same reason Wild Wild West failed. (Mechanical Spiders? ...Hmmmm, good thought but, No.) There was a stupid amount of money thrown at a project that no one involved really understood the soul of. Jonah Hex at its core needed to be a straight up spagetti western revenge tale.
  • random73random73 Posts: 2,318
    Torchsong said:

    Booster Gold could totally work if they stick with a few things -

    1) Make it funny. Booster Gold is a comedy at its heart. The story is right there in the comic - a kid wants to make it at all costs, cheats to get there, gets caught, learns nothing from the experience, and tries to go back in time to fix things and still get famous in the process. It's relevant to our times - who hasn't read an article lately about people who want to be famous but don't want to put in the hours to become so? So you throw in a theme of "Learning what it means to be a hero." and you have a great movie people will relate to.

    2) Pacify the new crowd. Get (and pay for) an actor people will go see regardless of what he's in. If he wasn't too old already Owen Wilson would make a perfect Booster. He can pull off the goofiness of the character, while bringing seriousness in when needed. Chris Evans could do it now, but he's pretty much playing every superhero in the book. :)

    3) Pacify the old crowd. Give us a working, funny Skeets. Give the Blue Beetle a cameo/backup role. Use slogans from the comic to promote the movie ("Go for the Gold - Booster Gold") Have the actor do advertisements in character.

    Gee...now I kinda want to see this happen. :)


    Agree, Agree, Agree. Booster is begging to be a send-up of our obsession with reality TV.
  • WetRatsWetRats Posts: 6,314
    Matt said:

    WetRats said:

    Who's Mr. Zsasz?

    He's a serial killer who cuts himself with the same knife (his weapon of choice) used to kill his victims. His body is covered in tally marks.

    He appeared in Batman Begins; Crane was justifying on the stand why Zsasz should be in Arkham. He later appeared during the inmate escape.

    M
    So again. Not a supervillain.
  • Neither Team 7 nor Deathblow interest me. Suicide Squad, maybe... but only if it's based on the Ostrander version; don't care at all for the New52 variant. Booster Gold, yes.
  • David_DDavid_D Posts: 3,884
    I'm intrigued by a Booster Gold movie, as I have always been a big fan of the character.

    I don't know whether they would try to connect him with the universe they are building out of Man of Steel movies, or whether he would be his own thing. I do think that- at least in the case of how the comics have worked in the past- that part of the core idea of Booster relies on how he fits into a world already populated with superheroes. Unlike, say, Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman-- who in their original publishing history started out in their own worlds, and as the only superhero in their world-- Booster was created to interact with a universe of heroes.

    I would say, specifically, he was one of those characters that contrasted the largely earnest, respectable, and often very establishment-feeling heroes of the DCU. Part of what made him work was how he fit into a world of popular superheroes because that was what he chose to do as a time traveler that selected that era.

    Booster was a post-modern in that way: there was a down on his luck, disgraced guy who comes up with a scheme, creates a persona, and adds himself to a golden age of heroes... for glory and a buck.

    So it would help if a Booster Gold movie was one that had some heroes, whether established or invented for the movie, for him to play off of. At least, if they want to try to make use of the ideas of the character that have worked in the past. We'll see.

    Oh... and he'd better be blond. Particularly a natural blond. That is not me being resistant to change. That is VITAL. He is, perhaps, the very blondest of blond male superheroes. And I feel I am in a position to judge. I am two of those three things.
  • David_D said:

    I'm intrigued by a Booster Gold movie, as I have always been a big fan of the character.

    I don't know whether they would try to connect him with the universe they are building out of Man of Steel movies, or whether he would be his own thing. I do think that- at least in the case of how the comics have worked in the past- that part of the core idea of Booster relies on how he fits into a world already populated with superheroes. Unlike, say, Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman-- who in their original publishing history started out in their own worlds, and as the only superhero in their world-- Booster was created to interact with a universe of heroes.

    I would say, specifically, he was one of those characters that contrasted the largely earnest, respectable, and often very establishment-feeling heroes of the DCU. Part of what made him work was how he fit into a world of popular superheroes because that was what he chose to do as a time traveler that selected that era.

    Booster was a post-modern in that way: there was a down on his luck, disgraced guy who comes up with a scheme, creates a persona, and adds himself to a golden age of heroes... for glory and a buck.

    So it would help if a Booster Gold movie was one that had some heroes, whether established or invented for the movie, for him to play off of. At least, if they want to try to make use of the ideas of the character that have worked in the past. We'll see.

    Oh... and he'd better be blond. Particularly a natural blond. That is not me being resistant to change. That is VITAL. He is, perhaps, the very blondest of blond male superheroes. And I feel I am in a position to judge. I am two of those three things.

    Don't worry, he'll be played by Will Smith.
  • random73random73 Posts: 2,318
    Smallville Booster Gold wasn't a bad take on the costume.
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  • WetRatsWetRats Posts: 6,314
    random73 said:

    Smallville Booster Gold wasn't a bad take on the costume.
    image

    Sweet. Was this version a time traveler?
  • mwhitt80mwhitt80 Posts: 4,637
    I'd be 30% in on a Will Smith Booster Gold movie. Just because I'm 99% in on Will Smith. I'm not sure how that works out mathwise but I'm pretty sure it works out.

    Lots of precents after 2 Mr. Jimmy Beams.
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