Or they could divorce Ultron from Pym, perhaps have it be a corruption of the JARVIS program instead. Precedent set with allowing JARVIS to operate the suits independently.
I thought that, too. Though I hope they don't go that way. They might put Stark into the Pym role for this, as clearly RDJ is the biggest star involved and they need to keep him central to the plot. But I think it would muddy things for JARVIS to become Ultron. Too Star Trek ship's computer breaking down. There needs to be more hubris, more Dr. Frankenstein to it-- that Pym (or Stark) sets out to make a new kind of real AI and creates this monster, who from the beginning calls him "father". That is creepier.
Could that mean JARVIS becomes a version of the Vision to stop Ultron? That's almost like KITT v. KARR from Knight Rider (I'm aware KARR was first & went rogue, but Ultron could get the first body before JARVIS is downloaded into one.)
And I thought this movie was going to be based on a brother/sister act?
I am kinda disappointed that Hank Pym isn't involved, but I guess I can live with it.
With Stark and Banner, we've got enough super-geniuses* to go around.
*Genii?
I was always more partial to Pym. Besides, these guys are all specialists, and it never hurts to have another specialist in the mix.
In a comic situation, sure.
In a movie, it's miraculous enough that the audiences loved TWO SGs.
I don't think it really mattered that much to the average audience, and I still think there's plenty of room for another genius. And they'd only have this same situation arrive if they ever decide to include any other number of specific Avengers; Black Panther, for one.
I can accept the storyline without Pym, that isn't going to be a huge problem for me. But I'll sure miss him.
So is Tony going to be making Ultron then? Would anybody be disappointed if that happened.
It makes sense to me, since they've touched on Stark having his own father issues. It's not a stretch to think that they'll somehow tie that into his relationship with his "son" Ultron. At this point, it's a lot easier and more compelling to link the mistake of Ultron into Stark's flaws, rather than devote time to introducing Hank Pym and getting the audience to care enough about him.
I've been under the impression that when we do get Ant Man, there's a good chance it won't be the Pym version, anyway. But that's just based on rumors related to things Edgar Wright has said in the past.
So is Tony going to be making Ultron then? Would anybody be disappointed if that happened.
It makes sense to me, since they've touched on Stark having his own father issues. It's not a stretch to think that they'll somehow tie that into his relationship with his "son" Ultron. At this point, it's a lot easier and more compelling to link the mistake of Ultron into Stark's flaws, rather than devote time to introducing Hank Pym and getting the audience to care enough about him.
I've been under the impression that when we do get Ant Man, there's a good chance it won't be the Pym version, anyway. But that's just based on rumors related to things Edgar Wright has said in the past.
Actually it makes perfect sense; in IM3, Mark 42 is remote controlled, Tony's decision at the end could factor into why he creates a robot, & of course his father issues.
I'd prefer Pym was involved (actually, to separate the movie, I'd go with Era of Ultron), but then its another character you'd need to share screen time with. Ant-Man is supposed to have Pym, but be Lang.
If Stark creates Ultron in the film version, that must be whole purpose of Age of Ultron comic; "break time" so Marvel can retroactively position Stark as the original creator of Ultron and downplay Pym's involvement.
I was talking to a friend about how I wasn't crazy about this, and said does Marvel know that two of the main characters from Age of Ultron are owned by Fox or Sony or whoever owns FF and X-men
to which he said that Whedon has announced that the story won't follow the comic book, so he was wondering why call it that in the first place
which then made me think.....That's like if Joss Whedon took the title of a campy movie and tried to turn it into a television series
I was talking to a friend about how I wasn't crazy about this, and said does Marvel know that two of the main characters from Age of Ultron are owned by Fox or Sony or whoever owns FF and X-men
to which he said that Whedon has announced that the story won't follow the comic book, so he was wondering why call it that in the first place
which then made me think.....That's like if Joss Whedon took the title of a campy movie and tried to turn it into a television series
so now I'm ok with it
With Whedon writing for Marvel, he had to know about Age of Ultron BEFORE the series was released. There's no reason he couldn't have come up with an alternate title.
The Buffy bit is different. That campy & crappy) movie was actually based on an idea & script done by Whedon. The theme of the movie was changed by the director & his wife (who produced it.) The TV series was done with Whedon having the control to do the idea he wanted.
As far as I know, Age of Ultron wasn't initially written by Whedon then reworked by Bendis.
Is this Age of Ultron thing real? Do I need to have a nervous breakdown?
It is real. But at the moment, the only thing it likely shares with the recent Marvel comic is its title, and using Ultron. (In the case of Avengers 2, hopefully Ultron will actually be in it, as opposed to him practically only doing cameos in the AofU comics).
I mean... if Ultron always gives you a nervous breakdown, then, yes, have one. But if you are concerned because you didn't like the recent comic, I would say don't worry about it.
Well thank goodness for that. When I first saw the title card my nose wrinkled up like someone held a turd under it. Now I'm concerned that Marvel Comics will shoehorn the movie origin of Ultron into comicbook continuity.
I can see Pym and Stark somehow working together. (Hey he worked with Banner!) And somehow Pym screws things up...maybe using his brainwaves for the template before Tony thinks it's safe? Is Lang supposed to be Ant Man in the movie? Because I can see Pym trying to redeem him self by becoming Ant Man.
I can see Pym and Stark somehow working together. (Hey he worked with Banner!) And somehow Pym screws things up...maybe using his brainwaves for the template before Tony thinks it's safe? Is Lang supposed to be Ant Man in the movie? Because I can see Pym trying to redeem him self by becoming Ant Man.
I was talking to a friend about how I wasn't crazy about this, and said does Marvel know that two of the main characters from Age of Ultron are owned by Fox or Sony or whoever owns FF and X-men
to which he said that Whedon has announced that the story won't follow the comic book, so he was wondering why call it that in the first place
which then made me think.....That's like if Joss Whedon took the title of a campy movie and tried to turn it into a television series
so now I'm ok with it
With Whedon writing for Marvel, he had to know about Age of Ultron BEFORE the series was released. There's no reason he couldn't have come up with an alternate title.
The Buffy bit is different. That campy & crappy) movie was actually based on an idea & script done by Whedon. The theme of the movie was changed by the director & his wife (who produced it.) The TV series was done with Whedon having the control to do the idea he wanted.
As far as I know, Age of Ultron wasn't initially written by Whedon then reworked by Bendis.
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I knew the background for the Buffy movie I meant it to be a bit of humor
also I disagreed with your comment because you used the word crappy, I enjoy the movie quite a bit
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Could that mean JARVIS becomes a version of the Vision to stop Ultron? That's almost like KITT v. KARR from Knight Rider (I'm aware KARR was first & went rogue, but Ultron could get the first body before JARVIS is downloaded into one.)
And I thought this movie was going to be based on a brother/sister act?
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I wouldn't be disappointed.
*Genii?
In a movie, it's miraculous enough that the audiences loved TWO SGs.
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I can accept the storyline without Pym, that isn't going to be a huge problem for me. But I'll sure miss him.
I've been under the impression that when we do get Ant Man, there's a good chance it won't be the Pym version, anyway. But that's just based on rumors related to things Edgar Wright has said in the past.
I'd prefer Pym was involved (actually, to separate the movie, I'd go with Era of Ultron), but then its another character you'd need to share screen time with. Ant-Man is supposed to have Pym, but be Lang.
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to which he said that Whedon has announced that the story won't follow the comic book, so he was wondering why call it that in the first place
which then made me think.....That's like if Joss Whedon took the title of a campy movie and tried to turn it into a television series
so now I'm ok with it
The Buffy bit is different. That campy & crappy) movie was actually based on an idea & script done by Whedon. The theme of the movie was changed by the director & his wife (who produced it.) The TV series was done with Whedon having the control to do the idea he wanted.
As far as I know, Age of Ultron wasn't initially written by Whedon then reworked by Bendis.
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I mean... if Ultron always gives you a nervous breakdown, then, yes, have one. But if you are concerned because you didn't like the recent comic, I would say don't worry about it.
Now I'm concerned that Marvel Comics will shoehorn the movie origin of Ultron into comicbook continuity.
Oh the trials and tribulations of geekdom.
Hell either way in Joss I trust.
also I disagreed with your comment because you used the word crappy, I enjoy the movie quite a bit