TV (correction, streaming media) NEWS - Star Trek: Discovery

Fade2Black

I thought a thread for this already existed, but my searches came up empty, so apologies if I've needlessly created a new thread topic.

CBS/Paramount unveiled a preliminary peek of its new Star Trek flagship, the U.S.S. Discovery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bqm9HSYbf0o

Webhead

Looks like a cross between a Federation ship and a TOS Romulan Bird of Prey

hauberk

I've seen a similar design in one of the old technical manuals. If I remember correctly it was a design for a proposed new series that would have launched shortly after the first Motion Picture.

playdohsrepublic

I hated it at first. using an old Star Trek Phase II design from Ralph McQuarrie that looks more like the old D7 Klingon bird-of-prey than a Starfeet vessel seemed lame. It's also super retro. But the second time around I hated it less, and now I kinda like it.

Webhead

At the 1:10 mark it sounds like a ship cloaking. It makes me think that this new ship might be a Federation/Klingon/Romulan hybrid. Which means that the new series could take place sometime after the Dominion war. The more I look at the ship the more I see Klingon and Romulan designs features mixed with Federation features.

The only thing that has me stumped is the registry. With the low number it would have to be that the Discover is a refit of an older ship that has been in service Captain Aprils or Pikes time, just like the Enterprise in ST TMP.

CaptShazam

Webhead said:

At the 1:10 mark it sounds like a ship cloaking. It makes me think that this new ship might be a Federation/Klingon/Romulan hybrid. Which means that the new series could take place sometime after the Dominion war. The more I look at the ship the more I see Klingon and Romulan designs features mixed with Federation features.

The only thing that has me stumped is the registry. With the low number it would have to be that the Discover is a refit of an older ship that has been in service Captain Aprils or Pikes time, just like the Enterprise in ST TMP.

They announced a couple of weeks ago that the show is set 10 years before TOS. So that explains the low registry number and would "probably" eliminate any cloaking device.

Webhead

They announced a couple of weeks ago that the show is set 10 years before TOS. So that explains the low registry number and would "probably" eliminate any cloaking device.

That's still set the show about 50 years before The Treaty of Algeron so a Federation ship could have been a Sultan cloaking devise, but that's a bit of a stretch.

It's cool that they are setting the new show in April/Pikes time period

playdohsrepublic

The theory is that it's going to take place during the Kilngon Cold War that was alluded to in a number of episodes and included the Battle of Axanar, which is why CBS went after the fan films (and specifically "Axanar") so hard.

bralinator

Anyone seen this ST:TNG web comic called Chief O'Brien at work?

CaptShazam

ST: Discovery pushed back till May

http://deadline.com/2016/09/star-trek-discovery-premiere-date-pushed-the-good-wife-spinoff-cbs-all-access-1201819639/

bralinator

CaptShazam said:

ST: Discovery pushed back till May

http://deadline.com/2016/09/star-trek-discovery-premiere-date-pushed-the-good-wife-spinoff-cbs-all-access-1201819639/

Any casting news yet?

CaptShazam

None that I am aware of.

[Deleted User]

hauberk said:

I've seen a similar design in one of the old technical manuals. If I remember correctly it was a design for a proposed new series that would have launched shortly after the first Motion Picture.

It was a Ralph McQuarrie design...Not his best work...



You might like this ship - featured in the VR game I'm working on...



It's called the Aegis, and it's spectacular.

bralinator

More setbacks: http://www.ew.com/article/2016/10/26/star-trek-tv-bryan-fuller

CaptShazam

With no cast hired, one major production delay (with a second one most likely being announced in the next month or two), a show runner leaving before production starts, and possible budget conflicts - I am beginning to wonder if this show is going to get made at all.

[Deleted User]

Hey, our Aegis ship design from Star Trek Bridge Crew (seen above) has been chosen as the replacement ship for Kirk and crew in the IDW comics! Holy Synergy!

CaptShazam

The show has been delayed again. No new date set for the show to air yet.

http://www.cbr.com/star-trek-discovery-debut-delayed-spocks-father-cast/

bralinator

Just punt and throw it on Netflix when it's ready to show, already.

bralinator

Still not coming out this fall, of course: http://www.vulture.com/2017/04/cbs-all-access-good-fight-star-trek.html

bralinator

This, however, made me smile: http://www.airspacemag.com/history-of-flight/star-trek-at-50-180960063/

RedRight88

The Trailer just dropped.

bralinator

Meh. This looks like Greg Berlanti joint with a bigger budget and no humor. Pass.

https://youtu.be/4dxe_ugmIVM

CaptShazam

So it looks like they are not even going to try to make things look slightly less modern or even the same as TOS. And it looks like the smoothed headed Klingon's will either be explained away or not mentioned.

I hope that someone tries to explain away why the female uniforms became skimpier 10 years later with Kirk. Maybe say that the uniform of the day was a Captain's prerogative on a ship and some Captains liked the short skirt. Everybody in deference to Kirk had their females wear the uniform when he arrived at Starbases.

If this is 10 years prior to TOS, Then the TOS crew exist and most of them are somewhere in Starfleet as younger officers. How soon until the temptation to bring in a young Kirk or Spock to grab ratings wins out?

To me this looks like they copied the current movie look and feel of Star Trek and just ignored what came before even though that is the continuity this is supposed to exist in.

fredzilla

Where's Seth McFarlane? I thought he was in this?

;)

bralinator

A lot of these good questions can be answered with the words "Blame Moonves"

https://youtu.be/Km5qVwZvjm8

CaptShazam

I understand that obtaining the "new customer" is the basis for nearly everything but it seems that nobody with this realizes that the existing fan base is still the core audience.

Most fans that came aboard with NGEN are only in their late 30's to mid 40's with hopefully decades left of spending money on Star Trek. We love continuity. If we do not like Discovery, then all you are left with is the hope that millennials are willing to pay for a streaming service of a network they already do not watch.

bralinator

CaptShazam said:

Most fans that came aboard with NGEN are only in their late 30's to mid 40's with hopefully decades left of spending money on Star Trek. We love continuity. If we do not like Discovery, then all you are left with is the hope that millennials are willing to pay for a streaming service of a network they already do not watch.

I can imagine the hand-wringing in the CBS executive offices preparing to play the same blame-game Sony did for the new Ghostbusters.

The whole thing kind of looks... generic and boring. Like it’s trying to retell material we’ve already seen before instead of boldly going forward, seeking out new plots and complications. Is this the Kelvin universe? Looks more like Babylon 5. The Klingons look awful. And, even though my species was not biologically determined for the singular purpose of sensing the coming of death, I still sense it coming for Star Trek Discovery.

CaptShazam

bralinator said:

CaptShazam said:

Most fans that came aboard with NGEN are only in their late 30's to mid 40's with hopefully decades left of spending money on Star Trek. We love continuity. If we do not like Discovery, then all you are left with is the hope that millennials are willing to pay for a streaming service of a network they already do not watch.

I can imagine the hand-wringing in the CBS executive offices preparing to play the same blame-game Sony did for the new Ghostbusters.

The whole thing kind of looks... generic and boring. Like it’s trying to retell material we’ve already seen before instead of boldly going forward, seeking out new plots and complications. Is this the Kelvin universe? Looks more like Babylon 5. The Klingons look awful. And, even though my species was not biologically determined for the singular purpose of sensing the coming of death, I still sense it coming for Star Trek Discovery.

The blame will go probably like this:

The show was great.

The industry is changing though and old Star Trek fans do not understand technology and did not pay for All Access. There was too much competition from other streaming services which caused younger new fans to miss this.

WetRats

The Klingons look like Lectroids from Planet Ten.

[Deleted User]

WetRats said:

The Klingons look like Lectroids from Planet Ten.

EVIL! Pure and simple!

[Deleted User]

It's funny to notice at my office the high level of excitement for The Orville, and the "meh" level for Discovery...

For my tastes, the look of the show is too close to Enterprise... Darkly lit sets, blue naval uniforms, lots of steel beams, etc. Being close to Enterprise is not really a good thing.

When I saw the Orville set, I felt like I was home.