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Loki (Disney Plus)

The sort of time travel story my dead dad would have been mad at, in that it uses a fair amount of footage from things you've already seen in the first episode. However I really enjoyed it.

Better production design than most of the MCU movies, let alone the 2 Disney Plus shows so far, Owen Wilson makes a great foil for Hiddleston to act against. Which is probably why much of this episode is essentially a two-hander black box theatre play.

Nice use of animation in the show too. High hopes for showrunner Michael Waldron's script for the new Dr Strange movie now.


  • MattMatt Posts: 4,446

    I thought the episode was okay. My theory is Loki is playing Mobius to get the power of the TVA, which looks to be far superior to the Infinity Stones/Gems. Perhaps, it’s what the other Loki variant is trying to get as well.

  • BrackBrack Posts: 851
    edited June 11

    I think the key thing from the first episode is that we never see what the TVA's charges actually do when they go off and clean up a timeline.

    Stealing the charges seems to be the Future Variant Loki's aim in attracting the attention of the Minute Men and then ambushing them.


    In terms of comics clues to the direction, the special thanks in the credits of this episode covers:

    Thor #282 - First Appearance of the Time Keepers (Gruenwald, Macchio, Heck)

    They probably should have thanked the Thomases and Paul Ryan for the Time Keepers too, as all you see of them is the backs of their very Gallifreyan cloaks in that Thor issue, it's not until their Avengers West Coast appearance that they get character designs. (Not coincidentally, this is the story that Wandavision cribs from).

    Thor '#371 - First Appearance of the TVA (Simonson, Buscema)

    Fantastic Four #353 - First Appearance of Mobius M. Mobius (Simonson)

    Journey into Mystery #622-626 - First Appearance of Ikol (Gillen, Braithwaite)

    Siege: Loki (Gillen, Mckelvie)

    Loki: Agent of Asgard #1-5 - Ikol as Loki, King Loki from the future (Ewing, Garbett)

    Notable by their absence is Fraction & Ferry as the creators of Kid Loki, and Straczynski & Copiel as creators of the female Loki. Also no Mike Norton, suggesting there's no Ikol as Kid Loki from Young Avengers here. Now all those people might get thanked later along with Christopher Hastings and Langdon Foss for Vote Loki.

    But for now, everything points to it being a version of the Ikol replaces Loki story.

    So the question is this:

    Is the Loki we meet here in the Ikol role, and the "evil" variant the true Loki? Or vice versa? Or is it the Agent of Asgard plot where the evil future King Loki is the future version of Ikol, the variant Loki currently in the "heroic" Loki role in the comics.

  • MihawkMihawk Posts: 422

    I liked how the Infinitiy Stones were just in a junk drawer. The writers way of showing the audience that Stones aren't the biggest power in the universe. That we are moving on to more important things.

    Hiddleston is a really good actor. Happy Loki is still around, and this show can breath new life into the character. I'm interested in seeing what point in time did the Antagonist Loki split from his "set path"

    And also I'm wondering if the Dr Strange movie is going to be the origin of the time lines getting out of control and the TVA was established in response to that?

  • MihawkMihawk Posts: 422

    So are they combining Lady Loki and The Entchantress together? Because she looks like The Enchantress more than a Lady Loki.

  • BrackBrack Posts: 851

    @Mihawk That's the costume of the reborn God of Stories version of Loki from the end of Loki: Agent of Atlas. They switch between male and female forms (as opposed to stealing Sif's body in the JMS Thor story).

  • MihawkMihawk Posts: 422

    Okay, didn't know that.

  • BrackBrack Posts: 851

    @Mihawk they did acknowledge JMS & Copiel in the credits this week so it's definitely part inspired by their run (and let's face it, Al Ewing and Lee Garbett probably wouldn't have had the genderfluid Loki without it setting the precedent).

    We also get Steve Englehart and Keith Pollard credited this week, which means something here came from their Fantastic Four run, and I can't figure out what yet.

  • BrackBrack Posts: 851

    @Mihawk Now, if you look at one of the dubbing credits for episode 2 (and are familiar with minor Dark Reign mini-series) you might see something that backs up your theory...

  • MihawkMihawk Posts: 422

    @Brack OK yeah I see she's credited as playing Sylvie, which is one of The Entchantress lol. So it could be a combination. Or maybe the "Bad" Loki has her as a helper and we're suspose to think she's Loki?

    Other than her look, I just thought she's literally enchanting people when she touches them.

  • MattMatt Posts: 4,446

    I’m actually hoping they just have an amalgam of Loki & Entchantress, with her taking the Entchantress name by the end. We seem to be getting too many replacement Phase One key characters.

  • MihawkMihawk Posts: 422

    I agree. New Cap, New Thor, New Black Widow, you know they'll have a New Iron Man eventually. If it wasn't for FF and X-Men stuff I wouldn't be that interested in the MCU. I can't believe there won't be a Steve Rogers and Wolverine scene.

  • MihawkMihawk Posts: 422

    Episode 3 imo was pretty bad lol. This felt like a random filler episode you'd get from a show that does 20 episode seasons. We learned a tiny bit about Sylvie, the ending was very abrupt. Just a very filler episode.

  • MattMatt Posts: 4,446

    I’m glad they’re going the route I was hoping. The score for was very John Carpenter. And I think the episode was primarily what we saw in the beginning of the episode.

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