Justice League movie possibility?
Man of Steel comes out in 2013. The speculation about whether or not Bale would show up in a JL movie isn't a consideration... http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1877830/ is the link to the IMDB Batman REBOOT in 2015, which means whoever they cast for that will likely be the one they'd want to choose for the JL movie... if there is one.
I left a voice mail on this but with you guys pulling farther away from when I left it, I decided to post it here on the forums.
Just thought I'd drop this in for consideration.
I left a voice mail on this but with you guys pulling farther away from when I left it, I decided to post it here on the forums.
Just thought I'd drop this in for consideration.
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Almost refreshing it that happens. I hate it when execs just jump all over the new hotness.
We haven't even gotten the final Nolan film yet. Damn it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And as a side note, when I first found out about this was the same time I took my guess that Batman is going to die at the end of this next movie. I personally think it's the perfect ending. Batman is not Superman or Spider-Man or what have you. Batman is a tragic figure and the logical ending is for him to die, but that can't happen anywhere else because he needs to be kept alive and making money in perpetuity. And if WB trusts Nolan enough to do his full story the way he wants to, I'd like to see that happen and if they're going to reboot the franchise anyway, why not? And then they have the perfect opportunity to reboot and make a more JLA-friendly Batman. My only fear is that in trying to make him more JLA-friendly, they may take away everything about him that works. But even if they do, it won't piss on Nolan's Batman anyway because this is a different Batman.
i don't think the Batman "reboot" is set in stone..but it would have to be rebooted if they wanted to fit him in a larger movie continuity, i feel. or maybe they could shoehorn Nolan's Batman into the Superman movie universe, since Nolan's involved too.
if i was DC, yeah, KILL this Batman and have someone else take up the mantle... the movies don't have to perfectly mimic or reference the comics, as long as the general feel and integrity of the property is intact.
Manhunter - Lantern - Flash - Canary - Aquaman - 2nd tier characters who all have personal motivations for doing what they do. Showcase the human side of these people (Canary trying to get out of her mom's shadow, Aquaman trying to figure out how to live on the surface world, etc.)
Instead of following the Marvel route (all the individual movies contribute to a whole), you do the reverse - one great movie out of which could potentially spring five great individual movies.
You want Bats and Superman in a movie together? Make "World's Finest".
I'm also with demonbear - take your time and don't rush to put one out just because Avengers did what it did.
much as i'm a Marvel geek, i'm rooting for DC to pick up the gauntlet and succeed like Marvel, in the movie universe department...
In a nutshell though, I really don't think they need 10 years to set it up. Avengers came out only 4 years after the first Iron Man movie, but before Iron Man, the only character on the Avengers with any sort of "household name" level appeal was the Hulk and his last movie (at the time, which would be the Ang Lee one - which I really liked I should point out) tanked in the box office. JLA already has a big step up on that just by virtue of having Superman and Batman in the same movie. That alone would draw in a good chunk of the general non-comic-buying populace (assuming the movie was actually any good).
Henry Cavill will be a great Superman... Ryan Reynolds doesn't make a good GL, but if they make a sequel, then at least we're getting something... Batman's reboot personality will be fine, not as good as Nolan's, and we'll need a Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, Flash, and Aquaman debut before DC and Warner Brothers will try anything, though.
People do the same with sports players all the time; if a sports star flounders in a playoff game, Sports Talk Radio is flooded with calls to "trade the overpaid bum!" The floundering is the last thing they saw.
As for this movie, I agree don't rush it to have it. WB will just fuck it up & Marvel will be laughing while we're pissed they blew it. I like the idea of working Batman & Superman into the movie, but including the rest of the team in the JLA movie vs their own. If a MM movie fails, than the studio will begin to question moving forward. I'd stick more with the origin episodes for the Justice League cartoon. It starts with the heavy hitters, than introduces the rest.
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Wonder Woman needs a movie. Or a TV show... but not the turd that they were working on. That was God awful.
Aquaman is one of the few DC heroes who hasn't been seen anywhere outside of Smallville. Flash has at least had a semi-tolerable TV series...
I think using Cyborg would be a great idea.
As for the rest of DC, their main heroes can't be put on the screen because they spend too much time on side project properties... just do the main heroes. Does the writer you hired do justice to the character? No? Fire him, hire another. DC: GET IT RIGHT.
Having said that, if I see one more Batman origin movie, I'm going to choke a sucka.
If you're just going to reboot it, why show me YET ANOTHER origin?
As for the GL and all that, DC have something that Marvel don't, all their own movie rights. All the DC movie rights are under WB so they could do a bit of smart rewriting of the next series of movies to include GL and expand upon that.
It's strange that in the end, Marvel Studios was blessed by not having Spider-Man available to them. It forced them to develop less recognizable characters. They were also fortunate by having one of those characters with a classic run (Iron Man, Demon in a bottle), and the other two in the midst of very popular arcs (Bru's Cap & JMS's Thor). DC tried to do this with GL, but as they are want to do, instead of keeping it simple they went with a high minded take that sucked much of the fun out of the character.
As to your last point, we don't know if Timm can work the same magic on live action projects. We do know that he respects the source material and understands the characters motivations. We also know that he can make the characters work together. Warner hasn't shown any of the above.