I was wondering in a quasi-poll type thread what comic movies you find to be hard to watch; I couldn't do a poll because the possibilities are lengthy. Not movies that are just bad comic movies, such as Catwoman or Man-Thing, but comic movies that after the initial viewing you'd buy on DVD when it's $5 or watch if it's on cable TV. Those movies that have a lot of cringe-worthy moments, but there are parts you really like.
For example, there are two movies that always come to mind to me for this category: Superman Returns and Spider-man 3. I edge out Superman Returns because if you stop Spider-man 3 movie right before Parker street dances, it is not really that bad (this is almost exactly halfway through the movie). The last half of the movie is like driving off a cliff.
My primary issue with Superman Returns is that damn kid. Without doing a lot of editing, you cannot eject him to get a decent movie. I hate everything about the kid and found him to be the killing blow of the movie. Having said that, there are some great scenes in this movie that I enjoy fast-forwarding to see.
So what are your Hard to Watch Comic Movies?
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Spider-Man 3 I could actually watch again sometime, because I actually kind of like the whole Dancin' Peter thing because that was the *exact* moment where you could tell that no one involved gave even one f--- anymore and gave the studio exactly what they thought they wanted. Bad movie? Sure, but Raimi & Co. probably bought some nice houses and boats on those paychecks and probably still laugh about it to this day.
We were led to believe that the makers of the film wanted us to see Superman Returns as a follow up to the first two Christopher Reeve Superman movies, with Superman Returns taking place five years after Superman 2. We are led to believe that the kid is the love child of Supes and Lois, meaning he would have been conceived (presumedly) during their little tryst in the Fortress of Solitude in Superman 2. BUT! in order to "be" with Lois, Supes had to be stripped of his powers, to be made an ordinary man. SO! How come the kid starts manifesting his dads powers, if at the time of conception, daddy had no Super genes to pass on. Huh? HUH?!!
Still, I liked Superman Returns a lot, whatever it's faults, it is a beautiful film to look at, and Brandon Routh made a fine Superman.
Complete with floating-to-Earth-in-Jesus-pose.
My question is how did Singer expect to sequel his way out of it? By having Superman continue to let cyclops raise his child, or to bust up their relationship, and swoop in and raise him like he never left? Either way, Superman looks dickish.
Batman Forever
Ghost Rider 1 and 2
Spider-Man 1 and 3
Jonah Hex
Superman 3 and 4
Blade 1, 2 and 3
Green Lantern
Daredevil
Elektra
Dark Knight Rises (yep)
Punisher (Ludgren and War Zone)
Incredible Hulk (Bana)
X-Men 1, 2 and 3
Wolverine
Batman and Batman Returns (I really liked Keaton as Batman though)
My geek cred is shot, I know.
There are more. I think it's less on the 'hard to wach" side of things and more of the fact that I don't go out of my way to re-watch movies after I've seen them the first time unless it's something that I found to be incredibly enjobable.
Utter garbage.
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I think Ang Lee's Hulk is the flip side of Nolan's Dark Knight trilogy. Both directors wanted to beyond a comic book movie. Lee seemed to want a more artistic take on Hulk. I even heard he was trying to interpret the character through an Asian angle.
Nolan went for more of a realistic angle. Escalation, Occupy movements, etc. Did Nolan's work because the American audience finds the Asian interpretation so foreign (no pun intended)?
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X-Men 1 is boring. It was boring when it came out and is even more boring today. It's not that I disliked the film when I saw it, and there are a handful of scenes I really enjoy. But ughhh it's just boring.
I think that fits the topic.
That said, I never finished watching Jonah Hex and it'll take an act of Congress to get me to watch any of the Schumacher Batman movies. Or Catwoman.
Movies I enjoyed that others seem to hate on: Daredevil, the X-Franchise (including Origins:Wolverine), Green Lantern, and I'm thinking about giving Ang Lee's Hulk another day in court. It's redeemed by Ed Norton's version...which was awesome.
I guess Howard The Duck would be the loser I love to watch. It's got so much wrong with it, but there is a heart to it, 'way down underneath all of the crap, struggling to rise to the surface. There are a few scenes that play out Howard's growing sense of alienation quite well. And I love watching the scene in the diner.
The comic panel shots were very distracting, the annoying. If the whole movie was that way it might've made more sense (though I'd find it unwatchable). Sprinkling it throughout the movie seemed like bad editing on a movie.
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As far as Absorbing Man being a Hulk villian, he's fought him enough times in his book to justify the shout out but not in that ridiculous, watch it 5 times and still dont get it way. What a bad ending, not the way a Hulk movie fight should end.
It sounds like Spider-man 3 & Batman Forever are those type of movies.
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Which, I guess, for me it would be Iron Man 2. I kinda liked the movie, but the part whith Fury int he middle really stops the flow.
Also... you can't invent atoms. You may sinthetize new isotopes. And I know, I know, you'll say "you can't even transform in giant green monsters", but it's different to me: the hulk isn't explained in detail, they just tell you some factors who come into play... as long as you don't go into detail, most everything is believable; but ATOMS are very very basic stuff, and anyone who knows anything about this will know that there is an actual reason why you can't invent new elements.
Wow, sorry, that was kind of a weird rant... sorry...