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  • David_DDavid_D Posts: 3,884
    chrisw said:

    David_D said:

    chrisw said:

    But even PItt and Hamm get their names batted around when certain comic books films go into development. Maybe not Pitt as much these days, though I do remember hearing him come up when they were casting Captain America. But Hamm has been mentioned for Batman, Doctor Strange, and I think even a few others. I just find it odd that comic book films are so dominant today that it's often a matter of "if", not "when", an actor will do one.

    I actually think actors like Tom Hiddleston and Chiwetel Ejiofor are playing things a little smarter by doing non-lead roles in comic book films. They get the benefit of doing a Marvel film, but minus the demands on their time and possibly detrimental impact on their careers. And Elba's already done that, as well (though I think Heimdall was an unusually small part to cast him in ).

    Oh, totally people put those stars on wish lists. I am not saying fans don't imagine them in those roles. And I see what you are saying that the culture now just expects anyone of a certain stature in the business to end up in one of these.

    I just meant that I would guess, the fact that Pitt and Hamm have not been in a corporate IP supersuit yet has been their choice. (If only, their choice because they couldn't get the number or the points on the net they were asking for, could be).
    Yeah, I was saying it's more the public and the culture of today that seems to think a superhero or similar role is a necessary notch in an actor's belt at this point. Not the actors themselves. I sometimes get the impression that if Elba doesn't get some sort of role like that, there are many who would view his career as something of a failure, which is far from the case.
    Agreed.
  • mwhitt80mwhitt80 Posts: 4,641
    chrisw said:

    David_D said:

    chrisw said:

    But even PItt and Hamm get their names batted around when certain comic books films go into development. Maybe not Pitt as much these days, though I do remember hearing him come up when they were casting Captain America. But Hamm has been mentioned for Batman, Doctor Strange, and I think even a few others. I just find it odd that comic book films are so dominant today that it's often a matter of "if", not "when", an actor will do one.

    I actually think actors like Tom Hiddleston and Chiwetel Ejiofor are playing things a little smarter by doing non-lead roles in comic book films. They get the benefit of doing a Marvel film, but minus the demands on their time and possibly detrimental impact on their careers. And Elba's already done that, as well (though I think Heimdall was an unusually small part to cast him in ).

    Oh, totally people put those stars on wish lists. I am not saying fans don't imagine them in those roles. And I see what you are saying that the culture now just expects anyone of a certain stature in the business to end up in one of these.

    I just meant that I would guess, the fact that Pitt and Hamm have not been in a corporate IP supersuit yet has been their choice. (If only, their choice because they couldn't get the number or the points on the net they were asking for, could be).
    Yeah, I was saying it's more the public and the culture of today that seems to think a superhero or similar role is a necessary notch in an actor's belt at this point. Not the actors themselves. I sometimes get the impression that if Elba doesn't get some sort of role like that, there are many who would view his career as something of a failure, which is far from the case.
    Mr. Bell's career doesn't need a franchise to be remembered as a win. I'm pretty sure Stringer is safe in the public's eye.
  • MattMatt Posts: 4,457
    Aside from the age range they're looking to put the character, this is exactly why I didn't like the Affleck casting for Batman. The character is the most (arguably second most) recognizable comic book character in the world. You don't need an A-list, highly paid actor to play the character & make the movie profitable.

    His Batman looks the part. His Wayne just looks like Affleck.


    End side bar discussion.


    Cannot wait for this new Bond. My only reservation at this point is that the Sony-hack leak of the ending is either false or has been changed.

    M
  • shroud68shroud68 Posts: 457
    Spectre was enjoyable. A lesser Bond film no doubt, filled with homages and callbacks. I for one am pulling for Daniel Craig to step aside. Great cast, great direction. Classic Bond but I believe Craig has run out of gas as Bond and this particular version of his story arc has run dry.
  • Fade2BlackFade2Black Posts: 1,457
    My (hopefully spoiler-free) thoughts on the movie.

    What a disappointment.
    Both Monica Bellucci and Christoph Waltz were woefully underutilized IMO. They needed far more screen time. Waltz shined during the few scenes he was in, which makes me believe this movie could have been so much better if he had been in more scenes.

    Fail hydra.

    Full disclosure: I saw this in a theater where the guy directly in front of me kept whipping out his cell phone and texting. Apparently, his phone's "silent" mode included what looked like an emergency vehicle flashing light. I wanted to give him an earful, but he was with a group of guys who outnumbered me and I was all alone on account I saw this movie on a whim while I was picking up the Star Wars tickets I had ordered online. I really didn't feel like getting into a confrontation, especially when I was outnumbered, but after the umpteenth time his phone was whipped out, I finally caved and gave him that earful. I wish I had done so earlier, for he pocketed it after that. I probably should have realized that his buddies may have outnumbered me, but I had the rest of the audience on my side. The whole incident did distract me from what was onscreen, so perhaps my overall opinion of the film was tainted by the bad movie-going experience, but tainted or not, the main issues I have with the film still hold true. I had a few other issues as well, but those involve going into specifics and it's too soon for that IMO.

  • MattMatt Posts: 4,457
    I think one of the twists was obvious for months now. The alteration from the leaked original ending twist is somewhat better, but I'm not certain how I'll feel until I see the movie this upcoming weekend.

    Doesn't Craig have 1 more film in his contract?

    M
  • shroud68shroud68 Posts: 457
    Matt said:

    I think one of the twists was obvious for months now. The alteration from the leaked original ending twist is somewhat better, but I'm not certain how I'll feel until I see the movie this upcoming weekend.

    Doesn't Craig have 1 more film in his contract?

    M

    A little internet research says yes he does have one more after Spectre but he is rather animated of late in stating this is his last one. Whether that is his attempt to poison the well and force his way out of the contract or negotiating in the press, who knows. The end of this film is pretty clear in one direction but as I've said many times in various threads I am not a process guy so just put another Bond movie out in 3 years and I'll be happy. Spectre certainly performed well enough to continue on as a viable franchise fronted by Craig or not.
  • MattMatt Posts: 4,457
    shroud68 said:

    Matt said:

    I think one of the twists was obvious for months now. The alteration from the leaked original ending twist is somewhat better, but I'm not certain how I'll feel until I see the movie this upcoming weekend.

    Doesn't Craig have 1 more film in his contract?

    M

    A little internet research says yes he does have one more after Spectre but he is rather animated of late in stating this is his last one. Whether that is his attempt to poison the well and force his way out of the contract or negotiating in the press, who knows. The end of this film is pretty clear in one direction but as I've said many times in various threads I am not a process guy so just put another Bond movie out in 3 years and I'll be happy. Spectre certainly performed well enough to continue on as a viable franchise fronted by Craig or not.
    I know the ending scene puts a nice period to the end of the sentence. Plus, it ties in with one of the scenes I've seen in the trailer. I'm kind of just surprised Craig would be looking to jump the 00 ship with one to go.

    M
  • I liked the movie alright, but it never quite reached the heights I think bringing back SPECTRE deserved. I'd still like Craig to do one more as I thought the end was a little unsatisfing and the attempts to tie everything together we're a little lazy. Every bit of evidence amounted to an 8x10 of previous villians. It also had a number of great classic Bond elements but they never really utilized them to do anything spectacular, the supervillian lair in a meteor crater, the shadowy group controlling things behind the scenes, the gimmicked henchman, a snowy mountaintop begging to be skied, eleborate torture scenes, an eject button... But it was all laid over this kinda lame surveillance state plot. It felt like the couldn't decide if they wanted to make a classic Bond or a modern Bond and didn't quite succeed at either.
  • MattMatt Posts: 4,457
    Just saw it. I actually like how it was a mixture of classic Bond with modern Bond. The surveillance police state theme maked sense. In the modern era, how does a large sinister organization control the world? Sure money, weaponry, an army all are ways to do so. Being able to watching everyone who doesn't know it is a lot better then threatening to shove a bomb into the ground to blow up the very planet you're on.

    I notice neither Mr. Greene or Camille Montes were mentioned. I would've liked more of a connection drawn between Quantom & SPECTRE.

    I'll agree it's not very original, but I would've preferred something like the twist be the connection was the head of Spectre be the prior 007. It'd explain how both him & the organization were able to be, well, a spectre. The connection used was just a slight alteration from the leaked script. I wasn't fond of it when I read it & continued to not be fond of it when I saw the movie. It reminded me another 'spy' movie with a similar reveal in its 3rd movie.

    I also thought the theme song was bland. The score was great. They included a couple verses from classic Bond movies, but used the modern stuff too.

    There were a lot of subtle throwbacks to Casino Royale (besides the obvious ones). There were some nice throwbacks to the classic era of Bond. This felt very much like the Connery/Lazenby movies.

    M

  • bralinatorbralinator Posts: 5,967
    edited December 2015
    Radiohead just released the song they submitted for the Spectre theme song:



    I prefer it to the one selected, but I'm an old Radiohead fan.
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