I'd just hope there is sufficient time before the reboot & that it's not thrown together for a JLA movie.
M
So does DC own all of their movies and there's not a split ownership thing like Marvel has? If so, we have Superman coming up and Green Lantern in the hopper. Is there any rumor if the Superman movie will lay down any JLA hints? Is there another DC movie scheduled after Superman? I would think they'd go with Flash or Wonder Woman, but if not them, then Batman would have to be the next one before doing a JLA movie. So I would think it won't be too long before we get the next Batman movie - certainly not much more than 2 or 3 years.
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Yup. Since DC has been owned by Warner Brothers for such a long time, they don't have the myriad of farmed out contracts that Marvel has because they're owned by a movie studio.
So here's something I was wondering and I don't have an answer for it. Are there any actresses who have been in more than one Batman movie? There are plenty of male actors who have been in more than one from Michael Keaton and Christian Bale all the way down to that senator who keeps getting cameos. But I can't think of any actresses who have been in more than one. I have a vague memory of a background reporter in the 1989 Batman being Tim Burton's girlfriend or something along those lines. Was she also in Batman Returns? If so, was it a speaking part? Although even a non-speaking part would be something. The only non-rebooted (i.e. not Catwoman) character I can even think of would be Rachel but she was re-cast between Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. I suppose there might have been flashbacks to Martha Wayne in TDK and/or TDKR, but (1) it probably wasn't a speaking part and (2) it would be a flashback to previously existing footage rather than having a new scene filmed with the same actress.
Ultimately, it's not something all that important, but it's an interesting piece of trivia if there is an answer.
In Batman Forever & Batman & Robin, there's a character named "Gossip" Gerty, a gossip reporter. The actress was Bob Kane's wife. Thats the only one I know.
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LIke Pants I don't think I would've spent that much time compiling all that information just to see if I could "guess" what was going to happen in the movie. Seems to be bordering on obsessive-compulsiveness.
As for what's next with the franchise, gosh I hope they wait at least MORE than 3 years before starting it up again (I still think that the new Spidey movie came out way too fast!).
I really don't know why people want to try and guess whats going to happen or how it will end. I like to enjoy a movie as its being presented to me. Sure, I'll weigh it, and analyize it, and think about it afterwards, thats one of the hazards of being a former film student. But I don't want to try and out guess the movie. I don't see how thats supposed to be fun.
As for the idea of the reboot. I think the difference between Spider-Man and Batman is that the third Raimi movie left things in a place where you could just continue on. With The Dark Knight Rises you're left with some changes that alters the landscape and takes away some of those main comic book landmarks. You lose Wayne Manor, unless you're going to come back and kick out the orphans. Wayne Enterprises is in the tank. Bruce Wayne seems to have no interest in returning to being Batman, and maybe not even Gotham at all. Alfred is gone. Some guy named Blake is given the Bat-Cave.
Continuing along this line would give you future movies where Bruce Wayne isn't Batman, and other changes as well. Maybe an elseworlds continuation of the movies would be okay, but for me Bruce Wayne is Batman. And I think that the third movie sort of puts them in a corner where you can't just put things back the way they were.
It bugged me that pretty much everyone seemed to know Bruce was Batman EXCEPT the detective, Gordon. I mean, really, Robin figures it out b/c they're both orphans? Really?? That was kind of lame. e L nny
I think that's a little shaky: since when does Batman need rampant crime to be active? he's driven to be out there to avenge his parents' deaths? If he was really planning to retire after the agreement struck in DK, wouldn't it have been mentioned then?
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In this movie I thought it became less about avenging his parents & more about being a symbol for people. So, he made himself a negative symbol to help create a positive one of Dent.
M
I think it's been said on the podcast before, and I agree in my mind its not that Gordon can't figure out who Batman is, its that he doesn't want to. He doesn't look at it. He doesn't think about it. He doesn't ask questions about it. He just goes with it because he wants/needs Batman there.
With the avenging his parents thing, I think even in the comics its not about avenging his parents any more, rather its about seeing that no one else has to go through what he had to go through. I know the history has been altered here and there, but Batman had caught his parents killer at one point, and he continued on as Batman. Maybe he's trying to honor his parents and make their deaths stand for something. Maybe he wants it to mean something. Maybe he has survivor's guilt. But I don't think its about vengence any more. Maybe at some point in history it was, but I don't think thats his driving force any more.
LIke Pants I don't think I would've spent that much time compiling all that information just to see if I could "guess" what was going to happen in the movie. Seems to be bordering on obsessive-compulsiveness.
As for what's next with the franchise, gosh I hope they wait at least MORE than 3 years before starting it up again (I still think that the new Spidey movie came out way too fast!).
I really don't know why people want to try and guess whats going to happen or how it will end. I like to enjoy a movie as its being presented to me. Sure, I'll weigh it, and analyize it, and think about it afterwards, thats one of the hazards of being a former film student. But I don't want to try and out guess the movie. I don't see how thats supposed to be fun.
Most people don't want the endings spoiled. It's the big payoff. Unfortunately, that's not how I'm wired. The ending is just the current status, I'm more interested in what created that. I'm not 100% certain WHEN that started (because I didn't always think this way), but I do recall reading several books back to back on criminal profiling, then bam....my perspective of the world changed.
My wife is reading 50 Shades of Gray. She's telling me about the sex & what the Gray character does. Now, I've been asking questions about the Gray character (if I want porn, I'll watch it, not read it) because I'm more interested in what made him this way.
Movies are no different. Its the detective instinct to try and figure out the ending if I don't know it or to analysis factors that ultimately result in the ending.
The worst part of this perspective; I do the same with people. I like to get inside a person's head & figure out what makes them tick. What happened in their lives that made them who they are now.
for something they've tried to steep in "realism" i still can't get over that a "magic punch" is the way to treat an EXPOSED vertebra!!!
one other thing... with this success, i fear that most DC movies from hereon in will try to be 'realistic' but end up being unnecessarily 'dark' instead.
still like The Dark Knight just a tad better...
oh, and DC/Warner bros? please don't reboot Batman in a couple of years just to make him fit in your plans for a JLA movie?
I haven't read all of the other movie thread yet but am I the only one who who thought Bane sounded like Gorilla Grodd from Challenge of the Super Friends? Especially when he raised the pitch of his voice for emphasis.
I haven't read all of the other movie thread yet but am I the only one who who thought Bane sounded like Gorilla Grodd from Challenge of the Super Friends? Especially when he raised the pitch of his voice for emphasis.
I thought he sounded like a grown-up Dexter (from Dexter's Lab) talking into a large cardboard tube.
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Ultimately, it's not something all that important, but it's an interesting piece of trivia if there is an answer.
M
Not as insightful as the CGS review, but just as entertaining.
As for the idea of the reboot. I think the difference between Spider-Man and Batman is that the third Raimi movie left things in a place where you could just continue on. With The Dark Knight Rises you're left with some changes that alters the landscape and takes away some of those main comic book landmarks. You lose Wayne Manor, unless you're going to come back and kick out the orphans. Wayne Enterprises is in the tank. Bruce Wayne seems to have no interest in returning to being Batman, and maybe not even Gotham at all. Alfred is gone. Some guy named Blake is given the Bat-Cave.
Continuing along this line would give you future movies where Bruce Wayne isn't Batman, and other changes as well. Maybe an elseworlds continuation of the movies would be okay, but for me Bruce Wayne is Batman. And I think that the third movie sort of puts them in a corner where you can't just put things back the way they were.
With the avenging his parents thing, I think even in the comics its not about avenging his parents any more, rather its about seeing that no one else has to go through what he had to go through. I know the history has been altered here and there, but Batman had caught his parents killer at one point, and he continued on as Batman. Maybe he's trying to honor his parents and make their deaths stand for something. Maybe he wants it to mean something. Maybe he has survivor's guilt. But I don't think its about vengence any more. Maybe at some point in history it was, but I don't think thats his driving force any more.
My wife is reading 50 Shades of Gray. She's telling me about the sex & what the Gray character does. Now, I've been asking questions about the Gray character (if I want porn, I'll watch it, not read it) because I'm more interested in what made him this way.
Movies are no different. Its the detective instinct to try and figure out the ending if I don't know it or to analysis factors that ultimately result in the ending.
The worst part of this perspective; I do the same with people. I like to get inside a person's head & figure out what makes them tick. What happened in their lives that made them who they are now.
M
one other thing... with this success, i fear that most DC movies from hereon in will try to be 'realistic' but end up being unnecessarily 'dark' instead.
still like The Dark Knight just a tad better...
oh, and DC/Warner bros? please don't reboot Batman in a couple of years just to make him fit in your plans for a JLA movie?