Episode 1551 Talkback - Comic Talk
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When Kevin Moyer is in-studio and Bryan Deemer's on the line, you know CGS has something big to talk about! First, we mark the passing of artist Herb Trimpe, and Chris talks about his discouraging experience as an exhibitor at the East Coast Comic Con in Seacaucus, NJ. Then, here comes DAREDEVIL, as we devote the second half of this episode to an animated discussion of the new Netflix original series! (1:34:07)
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I loved Herb Trimpe! He drew my favorite Hulk along with Sal Buscema. Nice to see the love on the internet but he never gets recognize like other artists. Sucks that I never got a sketch or to meet him.
I was at MoCCA Fest that Saturday, and there were enough people attempting to get in to its new location, Center 548 on West 22nd and 12th Ave in Manhattan, that there were lines all the way down the block. Mind you, my girlfriend and I didn't get there until about 2:30/2:45 and that was the case. Luckily we pre-purchased our tickets online and were able to cut the line, but this was the most people I'd seen waiting to get into MoCCA Fest in years.
The new location really did breathe new life into the show, as the old location was The 69th Regiment Armory. It is an OLD building, and both smells and feels like it. Little to no ventilation, and the space is hard to layout for a comic show. In comparison, Center 548 has multiple floors for MoCCA to use, and they did. Floors two, three, and four all had artists, publishers, and writers spread out all throughout the floor. And there was even a roof deck available if you wanted to grab some concessions and find a place to chat.
Flow of traffic was strong, and aisles were tight at spots, but there was tons to see, do, and purchase. MoCCA even set up a small art exhibit at the far-end of the second floor with art by R. Crumb and his wife, Aline Kominsky-Crumb. And there were a few pieces on display from Little Nemo: Dream Another Dream, including three by Bill Sienkiewicz.
This sounds like the complete opposite of what happened with East Coast Comic Con switching venues. I've been to the Meadowlands Exposition Center many a time, as that's where AnimeNEXT was held for years before it moved to the harder to get to, but larger, Garden State Convention Center in Somerset. I know how frustrating a place the Meadowlands Expo Center can be, especially since its noise protection is non-existent, and the place looks cavernous but is actually way smaller when you realize it's wider than it is long.
What the Meadowlands does have going for it is that it's way easier to get to from NYC than other locations; you can take a NJ Transit bus for cheap, or even the train if you wanted to. On a weekend where it wasn't competing with a show like MoCCA Fest, which has support from both regular and independent fans and creators, maybe it would have. But it looks like that didn't happen.
I know how difficult it is to get space at halls, so I'm sure there were no other weekends this thing could have happened. And Cliff, the showrunner, is a friend of mine. But I do hope that if this thing happens next year, it is on a weekend where there isn't another show in the same general area that same weekend. Especially one that's on a rebound like MoCCA Fest.
I'm sure (as I've been listening to your shows) that the vast majority of you feel about the current DC as I do. And as much as Arrow, Flash, etc. gives me a smile every time I watch them, it's not enough. I MISS my DC. And without a steady and abiding passion for a Universe that I claimed once to know like the back of my hand...I feel sort of empty in my comics hobby. Sure, I'm discovering great new Indy titles and reading more Marvel. But without DC...IDK. It feels hollow. Incomplete. And as ANGRY as DC has been making me and the further they move away from me...I STILL miss it greatly.
I know you did a Top 5 DC titles episode awhile back and such, so I have no idea EXACTLY what you should do. But I'd LOVE to hear an episode devoted to something PASSIONATELY DC.
Just a suggestion.
Boy do I love CGS!
I was worried Wagner was going to give Allard an origin story, which I'm against. I like the mystery behind his true origins. I really liked how it picks up with Allard returning to NYC and setting up "shop" as the story.
DD is amazing. I got a couple nitpick with the series (some of the expletives seemed forced into the script), but overall a home run. The hallway scene was simply epic. I liked that Matt used rope as hand wraps for the fight. Also, knowing how severely injured he was earlier in the episode, but kept going.
I see Ayelet Zurer has gone from DC as Lara Lor-Van to Marvel as the Kingpin's squeeze.
From what I've read, AKA Jessica Jones is released late-2015. I bet Luke Cage & Iron Fist will both come in 2016. The order makes sense; the Night Nurse & Jessica Jones have connections with Luke Cage (he's appearing in AKA JJ). Cage can lead into Iron Fist with that connection.
I predict DD season 2 airs before Defenders does.
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I enjoy the Flash but TV shows do not need to look and sound like a tv show. Daredevil was beautifully shot.
http://thecomicforums.com/discussion/112/the-netflix-thread-whatcha-watching/p1
Once you finish Daredevil, you may check out IP Man 1 & IP Man 2. Its not a comic book movie, but you will very likely enjoy it.
Must've been because Daredevil is rated TV-MA, but somebody was a bit of a potty mouth this episode... LOL
:)
I recall @Adam_Murdough once stating he prefers VCR videos to DVDs because of the imperfections. I prefer the clarity of Blu-Ray to feel like I'm there. So, if the alley in the scene is dark, I'd prefer that's how it's captured on film.
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And pretty much a full hour, too -- on broadcast TV, it'd probably be an hour-and-a-half show with the commercials slipped in.
But then to my point... If Flash didn't have commercials, and wasn't written into the structure of having commercials, then might it be more to your liking?
I'll admit that The Flash has a bit of the CW vibe to it, while Arrow has it a lot. I haven't missed one second of The Flash, but only rarely watch Arrow and it's usually only when I've chosen to DVR a specific episode and I actually fast forward through almost half of it.
From my own perspective, it was a decent show. I worried that the walkability of the aisles was bad news for the retailers and guests there, but I appreciated actually being able to move about more easily than the last few shows I've been, too... it's nice to not have the claustrophobia kick in at one of these things! I got to meet Arthur Adams and Fred Hembeck, talk with Kate Leth about how I'm not the target audience for Lumberjanes and how that's perfectly okay (as well as what it's like to grow up in a cold place that's wonderful in summers but inhospitable and Hoth-like the rest of the time... I'm from Maine, she's from Nova Scotia), and I got some amazing Justice League Unlimited storyboard/sketch art from Dave Bullock (and his fiancee, who is just weapons-grade charming and a hell of a lot of fun to talk to) of Spy Smasher from the "Patriot Act" episode:
So it was a good show for shopping (especially for cheap TPBs from one particular New Jersey retailer), I got to meet some people I've wanted to meet for a long time (though sadly I did not take the time to meet Herb Trimpe), talked to some cool indie artists, and had an easy time driving to and from (always amazing for NJ) and parking (ditto), but I don't know if I'd necessarily go back unless the guest list was similarly stellar next year. And from the sound of it, I don't know how they'll convince that many people to come back.
Also, and this is just me. Daredevil is not for my boys yet. Nope , no way. Where as Flash, they are loving it and I can watch it with them.
Now don't get me wrong, I am loving both shows. However, it is unfair to say Flash is too TV and almost silly while praising Daredevil as the greatest thing because of how dark, violent, and real it is.
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