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  • WetRatsWetRats Posts: 6,314

    Greg said:
    I wonder if it comes with all of the lenticular covers?
    Coffee Table Book.
  • Chuck_MelvilleChuck_Melville Posts: 3,003
    WetRats said:

    Greg said:
    I wonder if it comes with all of the lenticular covers?
    Coffee Table Book.
    Or the infamous Coffee Book Table...

  • TorchsongTorchsong Posts: 2,794
    Kinda fishy to me that they're foisting an omnibus on us for a bunch of books that haven't even come out yet. I could see it for all the N52 #1's. That made sense. This one not quite so much.

    I want Omnibus collection of things that are true comic book landmarks (I have all three New Teen Titans books, for example), not necessarily something that we don't for sure will be any good or not.
  • WetRatsWetRats Posts: 6,314
    If there's an omnibus edition, it must be good!
  • CaptShazamCaptShazam Posts: 1,178
    WetRats said:

    If there's an omnibus edition, it must be good!

    It is going to be triple good because it is a omnibus (1) of a special event (2) of DC N52 material (3).

    The Eisner's should just drop off the awards on Dan DiDio's desk now to save time.
  • MattMatt Posts: 4,457
    I'm waiting for the interview where DC admits they lose money with each Omnibus on this "event" sold.

    Maybe the Omnibus will have a High Def, platinum, die cut cover!

    M
  • CaptShazamCaptShazam Posts: 1,178
    edited June 2013
    Matt said:



    Maybe the Omnibus will have a High Def, platinum, die cut cover!

    M

    They should make multiple variant cover dust jackets.
  • i_am_scifii_am_scifi Posts: 784
    I think next DC will release covers that double as silly hats.
  • PeterPeter Posts: 470
    The Outhousers "article" is full of incorrect info. For instance, their allocation example is wrong. Brian Hibbs has a better breakdown of the mess:
    http://www.savagecritic.com/retailing/the-staggeringly-epic-incompetence-of-dc-entertainment/
  • MattMatt Posts: 4,457
    Peter said:

    The Outhousers "article" is full of incorrect info. For instance, their allocation example is wrong. Brian Hibbs has a better breakdown of the mess:
    http://www.savagecritic.com/retailing/the-staggeringly-epic-incompetence-of-dc-entertainment/

    Is there really THAT much interest in these covers?

    M
  • Mr_CosmicMr_Cosmic Posts: 3,200
    Peter said:

    The Outhousers "article" is full of incorrect info. For instance, their allocation example is wrong. Brian Hibbs has a better breakdown of the mess:
    http://www.savagecritic.com/retailing/the-staggeringly-epic-incompetence-of-dc-entertainment/

    Hibbs writes:
    and, what is worse, is that by letting DC get away with this we’ve just assured that Marvel is going to think of an even bigger way to stunt/no solicit manipulate the market, because it is simply what these companies do. -
    That's the worst part!
  • TorchsongTorchsong Posts: 2,794
    Let me be clear here: I loath speculators, I think that collecting comics for value alone is the work of both the moron and the devil, I think that multiple covers on single stories is purely a way to trick and exploit you the consumer, and to prey upon the lowest and basest instincts and compulsions of the customer base. I think it shows contempt for you. - See more at: http://www.savagecritic.com/retailing/the-staggeringly-epic-incompetence-of-dc-entertainment/#sthash.dvIuMQsC.dpuf
    And this is why I want to have Mr. Hibb's babies.
  • Chuck_MelvilleChuck_Melville Posts: 3,003
    edited August 2013
    Basically, if you preordered the lenticular cover at the high price of $3.99, you got screwed over by DC. There's not enough copies to go around, so even if you preordered and paid your money upfront, the books will be allocated so that there's no guarantee that you'll get one. (Likely, there will be a refund, but that's not going to win any brownie points with the loyal fans who expected to get what they thought they were paying for.) And if you were only getting the gimmick cover because you didn't have any choice, well, now there'll be a $2.99 version without the gimmick, but there's not enough time for you or the retailer to get your orders in. (The retailers do have a little time, but, as Hibbs noted, not enough time to make an educated order based on past sales, etc.)

    DC will make a lot of money in the short run on this event; it remains to be seen whether or not it will have been worth it in the long run.
  • CaptShazamCaptShazam Posts: 1,178
    I feel a lot better about not ordering any DC issues for villians month.

    The corporate suits are only going to see the profit and ignore the complaints. It will not be until one of these stunts fails on a financial level will they even think about change. They see things month to month and quarterly. Sept will be huge and will make this quarter highly profitable. Next year will be an even bigger gimmack.
  • Basically, if you preordered the lenticular cover at the high price of $3.99, you got screwed over by DC. There's not enough copies to go around, so even if you preordered and paid your money upfront, the books will be allocated so that there's no guarantee that you'll get one. (Likely, there will be a refund, but that's not going to win any brownie points with the loyal fans who expected to get what they thought they were paying for.) And if you were only getting the gimmick cover because you didn't have any choice, well, now there'll be a $2.99 version without the gimmick, but there's not enough time for you or the retailer to get your orders in. (The retailers do have a little time, but, as Hibbs noted, not enough time to make an educated order based on past sales, etc.)

    DC will make a lot of money in the short run on this event; it remains to be seen whether or not it will have been worth it in the long run.

    Bleeding Cool is editorializing along this same line of thought, here. I'm OK with a dollar less for the non-3D versions. I told my LCS that yesterday. If they give me some or all 3D versions for the four Batman title issues and four Detective Comics issues I'm asking for, that's fine.
  • JamieDJamieD Posts: 210
    Brian Hibbs is my hero :x
  • MattMatt Posts: 4,457
    I wonder what sales would look like if people were given a choice.

    M
  • TorchsongTorchsong Posts: 2,794
    Matt said:

    I wonder what sales would look like if people were given a choice.

    That's Socialism! :)

    I'm looking at my DCBS order this month and it's really sad but great at the same time. There's exactly one single-issue book in there. One. And it's My Little Pony. :) No DC. No Marvel. No nothing.

    What's cool is there's a bunch of great independent trades and manga in there - most of them new that I'm trying out based on research and word-of-mouth. There's a smattering of DC trades, and no Marvel this time around. And those DC trades are books that generally don't fall into the "Event" type stuff (All-Star Western, Swamp Thing, etc.)


  • MattMatt Posts: 4,457
    edited August 2013
    Torchsong said:

    Matt said:

    I wonder what sales would look like if people were given a choice.

    That's Socialism! :)

    I'm looking at my DCBS order this month and it's really sad but great at the same time. There's exactly one single-issue book in there. One. And it's My Little Pony. :) No DC. No Marvel. No nothing.

    What's cool is there's a bunch of great independent trades and manga in there - most of them new that I'm trying out based on research and word-of-mouth. There's a smattering of DC trades, and no Marvel this time around. And those DC trades are books that generally don't fall into the "Event" type stuff (All-Star Western, Swamp Thing, etc.)


    I guess I should finish my thought process:

    I wonder what sales would look like if people were given a choice...of which cover to buy. Would the cheaper, 2D be more appealing & sell better. How great would THAT be?!

    When given a choice of a 3D or 2D movie, hands down it'll be 2D. In fact, there was a movie released I wanted to see that only had 3D released when I was able to see it. Needless to say, I watched the movie through Netflix.

    F 3D medium!! (Except for view masters; they kick ass!)

    M
  • I love the 3D medium and will always default to that if I can at the theater.

    Where the lenticular covers are concerned, I probably would have bought the one for Forever Evil if that had been the only one. But for the whole line!? That's just nuts and I wasn't going to go for it. If they had offered regular covers for the event, I might have picked up a few, but I wasn't going to buy every single one of them. Not this time. This isn't just one event too far, but an uninspired and uninteresting one as well, with badly redesigned and reimagined villains. This was just a good place to jump off of the bandwagon.
  • TorchsongTorchsong Posts: 2,794
    Oh sure...CLARIFY things! :)

    I don't buy gimmicks or variants because I don't care about them. I want to read the story inside that cover, and if 2D is the most economical way to go about that, that's the route I take.

    A publisher I know who does a TON of variant covers for his books made the argument that when you buy variants or the like you're not buying a comic, you're investing in art. I won't dispute him on that but I'm not here necessarily to buy art. I am here to buy and read comics. Others may love scooping up every variant foil-based 3D gatefold polybagged whatever...and more power to them. It's just not for me.

    Honestly, if publishing houses would just make boutique books for the people who want to collect them, and do cheap print runs of the actual story (on old newsprint paper) and charge a buck or two for those of us who want to READ the things...well, we'd probably still find a way to screw it up. :)



  • luke52luke52 Posts: 1,392
    Matt said:

    I wonder what sales would look like if people were given a choice.

    M

    We all know the 3d covers would still sell most. By a long way too, for all the reasons we've been saying.

    Personally given the choice I would've gone with 2d on most (of what I've actually ordered) and a couple 3ds of the covers I think will look coolest. I'm all about the story at heart.

    DC has totally screwed up an already negatively viewed event/gimmick/ploy to win the dollar share.

    Roll on October and Justice League 3000.
  • mwhitt80mwhitt80 Posts: 4,638
    Well I'm glad I skipped out. This has to be causing all kinds of problems at DCBS
  • Does anybody know the status of these covers at DCBS
    mwhitt80 said:

    Well I'm glad I skipped out. This has to be causing all kinds of problems at DCBS

  • luke52luke52 Posts: 1,392
    edited August 2013
    Just had word from my LCS that they will be allocating their 3D lot to one per customer, starting with those that ordered the lot, then going in order of who ordered. I think this is a pretty good approach to a shite situation.

    eBay will be busy in September. It'll be interesting to see what the 3D covers go for on there.
  • luke52 said:

    Just had word from my LCS that they will be allocating their 3D lot to one per customer, starting with those that ordered the lot, then going in order of who ordered. I think this is a pretty good approach to a shite situation.

    eBay will be busy in September. It'll be interesting to see what the 3D covers go for on there.

    very interesting.
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