And on a completely random note: I saw Stan Lee talking a walk through Beverly Hills today! This happened about 10 min. after I toured an exhibit at the Paley Center/TV Archive that had a selection of famous writers' typewriters - including Jerry Siegle's. Other typewriters were owned by John Lennon, Ernest Hemingway, John Cheever, Greta Garbo.
Stan's hair was perfect. He looked exactly like you'd expect Stan Lee to look. He was wearing a light brown sweater despite it being 80 plus degrees. It was a surreal moment.
Question. The Rogues were a factor because Cisco was not dead and was available to make the weapons in this timeline?
Because with the Weather Wizard caught, he didn't have an excuse to miss his brother's party, so he wasn't out drunk and depressed later to get picked up.
Can I just say, time travel clearly makes no sense in this universe. (Not that most time travel stories make sense). So in the Weather Wizard episode, past Barry briefly sees future Barry traveling backwards, which implies Barry came back in time then. But he didn't, because events still played out so that he'd go back in time.
Then he DOES go back in time, sees the incident from future Barry's perspective. But once he arrives in the past, there is no past Barry?!? Ok, so he travelled back along his own timeline essentially regressing himself 24 hours. That's the only explanation as to why there aren't 2 Barry's running around in the Rogue episode.
But we know that when he goes to save his mother, child Barry and adult Barry are in the same place at the same time! So what happened to the Barry from the Weather Wizard episode who never had to travel in time during the Rogue episode?
Actually, there is one other explanation for everything... Past Barry and Future Barry are not the same person! They are from parallel dimensions and accidentally crossed over to each other's universes when they met in the speed force. Now there is a domino effect of Flashes hopping one dimension over, leaving one Central City to be destroyed by the Weather Wizard and without a Flash, and another with the Rogues as a major criminal force.
Of course, that doesn't work either, unless the Central City is destroyed universe is erased once Barry leaves it, or a version of him eventually returns to it to ensure he and Reverse-Flash become enemies, and goes back in time to save his mother to ensure his creation...
Can I just say, time travel clearly makes no sense in this universe. (Not that most time travel stories make sense). So in the Weather Wizard episode, past Barry briefly sees future Barry traveling backwards, which implies Barry came back in time then. But he didn't, because events still played out so that he'd go back in time.
Then he DOES go back in time, sees the incident from future Barry's perspective. But once he arrives in the past, there is no past Barry?!? Ok, so he travelled back along his own timeline essentially regressing himself 24 hours. That's the only explanation as to why there aren't 2 Barry's running around in the Rogue episode.
But we know that when he goes to save his mother, child Barry and adult Barry are in the same place at the same time! So what happened to the Barry from the Weather Wizard episode who never had to travel in time during the Rogue episode?
Actually, there is one other explanation for everything... Past Barry and Future Barry are not the same person! They are from parallel dimensions and accidentally crossed over to each other's universes when they met in the speed force. Now there is a domino effect of Flashes hopping one dimension over, leaving one Central City to be destroyed by the Weather Wizard and without a Flash, and another with the Rogues as a major criminal force.
Of course, that doesn't work either, unless the Central City is destroyed universe is erased once Barry leaves it, or a version of him eventually returns to it to ensure he and Reverse-Flash become enemies, and goes back in time to save his mother to ensure his creation...
Question. The Rogues were a factor because Cisco was not dead and was available to make the weapons in this timeline?
Because with the Weather Wizard caught, he didn't have an excuse to miss his brother's party, so he wasn't out drunk and depressed later to get picked up.
And he was in Star Labs safe and sound and they couldn't find him I guess too.
Question. The Rogues were a factor because Cisco was not dead and was available to make the weapons in this timeline?
Because with the Weather Wizard caught, he didn't have an excuse to miss his brother's party, so he wasn't out drunk and depressed later to get picked up.
And he was in Star Labs safe and sound and they couldn't find him I guess too.
They had to wait for a better time to snag him, but he was killed before they had a chance.
Can I just say, time travel clearly makes no sense in this universe. (Not that most time travel stories make sense). So in the Weather Wizard episode, past Barry briefly sees future Barry traveling backwards, which implies Barry came back in time then. But he didn't, because events still played out so that he'd go back in time.
Then he DOES go back in time, sees the incident from future Barry's perspective. But once he arrives in the past, there is no past Barry?!? Ok, so he travelled back along his own timeline essentially regressing himself 24 hours. That's the only explanation as to why there aren't 2 Barry's running around in the Rogue episode.
But we know that when he goes to save his mother, child Barry and adult Barry are in the same place at the same time! So what happened to the Barry from the Weather Wizard episode who never had to travel in time during the Rogue episode?
Actually, there is one other explanation for everything... Past Barry and Future Barry are not the same person! They are from parallel dimensions and accidentally crossed over to each other's universes when they met in the speed force. Now there is a domino effect of Flashes hopping one dimension over, leaving one Central City to be destroyed by the Weather Wizard and without a Flash, and another with the Rogues as a major criminal force.
Of course, that doesn't work either, unless the Central City is destroyed universe is erased once Barry leaves it, or a version of him eventually returns to it to ensure he and Reverse-Flash become enemies, and goes back in time to save his mother to ensure his creation...
It's a Speed Force thing. Don't overthink it.*
This episode was establishing how time travel works in this universe. As long as they stay consistent from now on, I'm cool with it.
*Who am I kidding? Why else does this forum exist, except for overthinking stuff like this?
Can I just say, time travel clearly makes no sense in this universe. (Not that most time travel stories make sense). So in the Weather Wizard episode, past Barry briefly sees future Barry traveling backwards, which implies Barry came back in time then. But he didn't, because events still played out so that he'd go back in time.
Then he DOES go back in time, sees the incident from future Barry's perspective. But once he arrives in the past, there is no past Barry?!? Ok, so he travelled back along his own timeline essentially regressing himself 24 hours. That's the only explanation as to why there aren't 2 Barry's running around in the Rogue episode.
But we know that when he goes to save his mother, child Barry and adult Barry are in the same place at the same time! So what happened to the Barry from the Weather Wizard episode who never had to travel in time during the Rogue episode?
Actually, there is one other explanation for everything... Past Barry and Future Barry are not the same person! They are from parallel dimensions and accidentally crossed over to each other's universes when they met in the speed force. Now there is a domino effect of Flashes hopping one dimension over, leaving one Central City to be destroyed by the Weather Wizard and without a Flash, and another with the Rogues as a major criminal force.
Of course, that doesn't work either, unless the Central City is destroyed universe is erased once Barry leaves it, or a version of him eventually returns to it to ensure he and Reverse-Flash become enemies, and goes back in time to save his mother to ensure his creation...
It's a Speed Force thing. Don't overthink it.*
This episode was establishing how time travel works in this universe. As long as they stay consistent from now on, I'm cool with it.
*Who am I kidding? Why else does this forum exist, except for overthinking stuff like this?
That's the problem! They've already been inconsistent! Either he replaces his past self or he exists in the same space as his past self. We've seen both. If it was just one I wouldn't have a problem, though Reverse-flash going back to way before he's born means it should be the latter. I'm sticking with the time travel+alternate dimension theory and just have to accept that everyone we've been watching except Barry right now is probably dead.
We have one more episode this season? Or what? I thought they had four more episodes to go and that was three episodes back...but now I see the finale is May 17th?
Also...good lord last night's episode was just in-fricking-SANE!
April 14th, 21st, and 28th May 5th, 12th, and 19th
I don't understand the random ass hiatus for two weeks until we get a new episode but hey, that's the CW for you.
Both Flash and Arrow, I don't know about other CW shows, nor other networks, are off next week, but then wrap up the season of 23 episodes each with 6 and 5 episodes respectively. This is possibly because it is Holy Week (Christian/religious thing). I look at the Wikipedia page every couple weeks.
I can't wait for this next one because it's title is "All Star Team Up".
Last night's episode's flashbacks were confusing and hopeful that Wells might not really be such a bad guy, but alas... Well, the real Wells sure seemed like a really good guy.
I do the same thing. Despite the fact that it's wikipedia, it's usually the best source for that information. I mark it down on the calendar so I know when to watch what (or what I missed the night before that I need to go download).
April 14th, 21st, and 28th May 5th, 12th, and 19th
I don't understand the random ass hiatus for two weeks until we get a new episode but hey, that's the CW for you.
I believe a part of that is to allow the studio to get caught up on the production. Each episode takes (I believe) slightly longer than a week to actually film and insert the sfx. The sporadic breaks keep them from butting up against the Dreaded Deadline Doom.
Plus the occasional holiday weeks @luckymustard mentioned, when they like to broadcast the appropriate holiday programming, if any.
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Pyrite Princess or Princess Pyrite
Fool's Gold Floozy (that's unnecessarily harsh)
Golden Gun Moll
The Bedazzler!
Midas' Daughter
ooooo shiny
Alchemy
And on a completely random note: I saw Stan Lee talking a walk through Beverly Hills today! This happened about 10 min. after I toured an exhibit at the Paley Center/TV Archive that had a selection of famous writers' typewriters - including Jerry Siegle's. Other typewriters were owned by John Lennon, Ernest Hemingway, John Cheever, Greta Garbo.
I am in town for the TCM Film Fest
"I saw Stan Lee taking a walk in Beverly Hills today ... and his hair was perfect!"
He'll rip your lungs out, Jim
Then he DOES go back in time, sees the incident from future Barry's perspective. But once he arrives in the past, there is no past Barry?!? Ok, so he travelled back along his own timeline essentially regressing himself 24 hours. That's the only explanation as to why there aren't 2 Barry's running around in the Rogue episode.
But we know that when he goes to save his mother, child Barry and adult Barry are in the same place at the same time! So what happened to the Barry from the Weather Wizard episode who never had to travel in time during the Rogue episode?
@-)
This episode was establishing how time travel works in this universe. As long as they stay consistent from now on, I'm cool with it.
*Who am I kidding? Why else does this forum exist, except for overthinking stuff like this?
We have one more episode this season? Or what? I thought they had four more episodes to go and that was three episodes back...but now I see the finale is May 17th?
Also...good lord last night's episode was just in-fricking-SANE!
April 14th, 21st, and 28th
May 5th, 12th, and 19th
I don't understand the random ass hiatus for two weeks until we get a new episode but hey, that's the CW for you.
I can't wait for this next one because it's title is "All Star Team Up".
Last night's episode's flashbacks were confusing and hopeful that Wells might not really be such a bad guy, but alas... Well, the real Wells sure seemed like a really good guy.
Plus the occasional holiday weeks @luckymustard mentioned, when they like to broadcast the appropriate holiday programming, if any.