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The Dark Knight Rises Discussion *Spoilers*
SigurdJarlson
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I saw the other thread was about the movie, but didn't have the spoiler tags in it, so I wanted to play it safe and not ruin it for anyone.
Thoughts on the movie? I overall enjoyed it though I'm not sure yet if I'm particularly thrilled with the ending, it may be a bit too cliche for my liking. How did Wayne survive? Did he put the plane on autopilot then bail out? And what about the cop going into the batcave, will the next movie, although by a different director build on this thread?
Thoughts on the movie? I overall enjoyed it though I'm not sure yet if I'm particularly thrilled with the ending, it may be a bit too cliche for my liking. How did Wayne survive? Did he put the plane on autopilot then bail out? And what about the cop going into the batcave, will the next movie, although by a different director build on this thread?
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Quick thoughts:
-The minor plot holes didn't bother me, I don't need a scene to show me how he got out of the plane it was just enough to see that the mission was accomplished,
-I figured out she was Talia about 1/2 way through but only using comic book knowledge deduction, I don't think it was possible to guess just with clues in the movie.
-Best movie opening ever
-Banes voice was haunting and terrifying. Loved it.
-Loved two Wire characters in it - Carcetti and Bunny Colvin.
-I found it distracting at points how clear it was they were in NYC
However, that doesn't change the fact that I FREAKING LOVED this movie.
Both Nolan and Bale said if they ever had to introduce Robin, they'd walk away from the series...I guess this was a way to punctuate that remark!
M
Was slightly annoyed that it took sooo long to see Batman, didnt like that there was not a tiny bit more explanation about him dissapearing and Bruce Waynes injuries.
I figured Marion was going to be part of the villains, but i forgot that i heard she was going to be Talia. Shoulda known. Shoulda been obvious the moment they mentioned Ra's.
Loved the ending. Dont reboot it DC. Dont do it. It could continue. Batman Inc series anyone?
I would say (based on Shaner's response) at least 80%, which was my goal. What I thought was the prologue and what scenes from the previews were the epilogue weren't correct. Both were in the movie, just not the bookends. I didn't see the Robin bit (or at least was hoping that wasn't the case), nor did I predict the bomb (I should've since Bane did set off a large bomb during No Man's Land.)
I figured the switch before the movie and knew the child was who the revealed was...too vague of info and a shaved head would help blend into the prison better. Being the person with the remote was a no-brainer by that point.
M
Anyway, I loved it absolutely. The only slightly wrong thing was that Blake didn't reveal his real name was Richard Grayson instead of Robin. I suppose it would caused problems with his story arc eg. becoming a cop under an assumed name etc.
M
The last 30-minutes were especially entertaining and any movie that can keep me riveted to the edge of my seat at 3:00AM is doing something right. But this movie was by no means perfect. I felt the overall story was a tad disjointed at times. The whole bit with Bruce climbing out of the pit seemed incredibly disconnected from what was happening in Gotham, and I mean than in a literal sense, not figurative. His ability to get in and out of Gotham so easily, especially when the entire city is so isolated, gave me the impression I had missed something. Sure he's Batman and he's resourceful, but my main gripe here is that I felt as if Bruce was going from one global location to another with no explanation as to how he got there or a sense that any travel time had occurred.
Another issue I had was that the ambiance felt off. I didn't get the impression it was winter. Much of the evening wear women wore to various social functions seemed way too lightweight for winter. The snow looked as if it was a late addition. There was no visible signs water condensing into vapor clouds when people talked. I realize this may sound like I'm nitpicking, and perhaps I am, but details such as these are ones that kept pulling me out of a film I yearned to fully immerse myself in.
I thought Anne Hathaway was amazing as Catwoman and ran away with the movie. I really didn't like the portrayal of Alfred but I'm not sure if this is a reaction to the fact that Michael Cain is getting up in years or a deliberate choice to remove him from the middle Act. I saw the twists coming, but still enjoyed the reveals. All and all, an enjoyable movie, but, in my opinion (and I'm usually the minority) I thought it was the weakest of the franchise. I thought it was lacking the balance between humor and darkness that made the other two movies (especially Dark Knight) stronger. Again, a lot of that came from Michael Cain. Still great, but not the best.
One man's opinion, I hope it makes sense.
http://www.rpsteeves.com/2012/07/wrapped-up-like-movie-review-dark.html
That being said I would have liked to see Talia survive in some way, perhaps in a brain dead coma so we could have a Damian.
I thought it was bold to start the story 8 years later with Bruce unable to get over Rachel's death, even though I thought he would have gotten over it & burried himself in his work. It was interesting to see the heavily injured Bruce from all his years of fighting. I thought Gordon would have been more able to desl with the choice of Batman re Dent's death & elevation to martyr status. Thought Batman would have gone out in those 8 years. I It was nice to see Crane again. A good handover to the next generation.
I think Nolan didn't give us what we expected but something satisfying and unique. He gave us a realistic world where the hero was exposed & couldn't put that knowledge back in the bottle.
Really cool that he hit a number of the major points of Knightfall.
Cool that he got a statue erected.
Anyone want the Robin or Nightwing sequel?
And personally, I thought he was much more Tim Drake than Dick Grayson.
M
Also, some names I can think of off the top of my head that are real people are:
James Paul McCartney
R. Buckminster Fuller
H. Ross Perot
My dad goes by his middle name and at times it's been a nuisance for him.
Finally, what I really want to talk about in this thread is the possibilities for the future of Batman and Justice League films. Would Joseph Gordon Levitt come back for more movies? Would he create his alter ego as Robin, or Red Robin, or Nightwing, or Batman? Or any or all of the above... I don't know what the movie could be called, but it, or multiple movies, could show him progressing to Batman by realizing he needs to instill fear. And would JGL be up for a JL movie?