Glad to see Journey on there. I know we're all sick to death of "Don't Stop Believin" but they had other tunes that were great and Neal Schon is criminally underappreciated as a guitarist (he had to hold his own with Carlos Santana, for crying out loud!).
The J. Geils Band? Really? I can go along with the other nominees, but they simply don’t belong.
Yep, that one stood out to me. Though the one that really stuck in my craw was Jane's Addiction. I really cannot stand anything that I've heard from them.
I grew up listening to them (my oft-mentioned two older sisters were fans) and they were one of my first concerts. I kind of viewed them as the Nickelback of their era (everyone you talked to hated them, but someone was buying those albums!) (maybe Styx was a better example :) )...and maybe without so much of the hatred Nickelback gets.
- Ross Valory was a huge influence on me when I was learning to play bass. Never realized he was re-stringing his bass with the bottom four of a five-string (eliminating the high G string entirely) to get that low sound. Put him with Steve Smith on drums and they were an amazing rhythm section. - When Greg Rollie left I figured they were going to have a real weak spot on keys...enter Jonathan Cain from The Babys and their songwriting took an amazing leap. There's a reason Escape and Frontiers are the albums they are. - There are many pretenders (the new guy is really REALLY good!) but there's only one Steve Perry.
For all that? Yeah, love 'em or hate 'em, they need to be in the hall...
The J. Geils Band? Really? I can go along with the other nominees, but they simply don’t belong.
Yep, that one stood out to me. Though the one that really stuck in my craw was Jane's Addiction. I really cannot stand anything that I've heard from them.
Their first album was huge. [Edit: And their second, Nothing’s Shocking was even bigger.] Yeah, Perry Farrell’s voice is a bit grating, but they played a large part in bringing alt music to the mainstream. Plus, I think they get some bonus points for Farrell’s role in creating the Lollapalooza Festival.
The J. Geils Band? Really? I can go along with the other nominees, but they simply don’t belong.
Yep, that one stood out to me. Though the one that really stuck in my craw was Jane's Addiction. I really cannot stand anything that I've heard from them.
Their first album was huge. Yeah, Perry Farrell’s voice is a bit grating, but they played a large part in bringing alt music to the mainstream. Plus, I think they get some bonus points for Farrell’s role in creating the Lollapalooza Festival.
Good info. I still wouldn't listen to them even for money, but I can accept their influence.
I'd understand if Jane's Addiction didn't get in this time, with their first nomination. I love Ritual, meanwhile I've never fallen in love with Shocking, but their are some key cuts on it that I love. I haven't listened to much after that. The band broke up, and Perry Farrell did Porno for Pyros and Lollapalooza. For that, he himself should at some point be inducted, but he's only released one album-ish as a solo artist.
Meanwhile, a band that hit it nearly at the same time, just before the Seattle/grunge scene happened, that has been eligible to be nominated the past three times now, but hasn't been, is Pavement. They lasted the span of the 90s, with Stephen Malkmus continuing on a bit better than Farrell did, but they also reunited, but not to make new music, but rather to perform live. Pavement had, arguably, four amazing albums in a row, with the fifth and final being their least loved by most.
As I said before though, I'm really upset by Nine Inch Nails not getting nominated. They/He (Trent Reznor) were nominated the previous two times, but passed over for induction.
Bummed at NIN's and Pavement's not being acknowledged. Looking forward in future years for Radiohead and Blur.
I really hope Yes, ELO, and Pearl Jam get in this time. And The Cars are another that would be good to see get in.
Bummed at NIN's and Pavement's not being acknowledged. Looking forward in future years for Radiohead and Blur.
Yeah, I doubt Jane’s Addiction gets in this year. Between NIN and Pavement, I don’t think there’s any question as to which has made the largest impact on music. I think Pavement is one of those borderline bands. That’s not an indictment on their music, just on the impact they made.
I think Blur may be in the same category as Pavement. I think Albarn is much more likely to get in with Gorillaz than with Blur. But Radiohead is a no-brainer. They'll probably get in on their first ballot.
Bummed at NIN's and Pavement's not being acknowledged. Looking forward in future years for Radiohead and Blur.
I think Blur may be in the same category as Pavement. I think Albarn is much more likely to get in with Gorillaz than with Blur. But Radiohead is a no-brainer. They'll probably get in on their first ballot.
Wow. I'm not sure I agree with that.
I mean Thom Yorke is a hack and Radiohead was never that great
The critics love the Blur. They are not my favorite band, but all it takes is adoration from the critics.
Meanwhile, a band that hit it nearly at the same time, just before the Seattle/grunge scene happened, that has been eligible to be nominated the past three times now, but hasn't been, is Pavement. They lasted the span of the 90s, with Stephen Malkmus continuing on a bit better than Farrell did, but they also reunited, but not to make new music, but rather to perform live. Pavement had, arguably, four amazing albums in a row, with the fifth and final being their least loved by most.
I like Pavement, and I've really come to enjoy Stephen Malkmus non-Pavement career. Real Emotional Trash is a great album.
Bummed at NIN's and Pavement's not being acknowledged. Looking forward in future years for Radiohead and Blur.
I think Blur may be in the same category as Pavement. I think Albarn is much more likely to get in with Gorillaz than with Blur. But Radiohead is a no-brainer. They'll probably get in on their first ballot.
Wow. I'm not sure I agree with that.
I mean Thom Yorke is a hack and Radiohead was never that great
The critics love the Blur. They are not my favorite band, but all it takes is adoration from the critics.
You may be right. And personally, I like Blur a bit more than Radiohead. But if critics love Blur, they absolutely fall all over themselves for Radiohead.
Tupac... I have listened and enjoyed Tupac's music; he created some of the best songs in the history of rap. I know his importance in culture and place in hip-hop iconography. I'm not arguing against him going in.
But.... You know what he never did, make a great album. He made some a lot of down right terrible albums, especially after he "died".
You know what he never did, make a great album. He made some a lot of down right terrible albums, especially after he "died".
I think a lot of his fans would argue All Eyez on Me was a great album. If nothing else, it produced five #1 singles and sold millions of records. But, yeah, he'll get in more for his influence on hip-hop than for the overall body of work.
Tupac deserves to get in on his singles. He made some great great songs. His great singles can get put against any great rap or rock song, but his albums not so much.
Plus he made the gold standard of beef music (no disrespect to Ice Cube's No Vaseline but that one didn't age real well at all). I'm not sure how you recover from "You say your a player, but I ####### your wife".
*sigh* 2017 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominee list is out and once again, Warren Zevon is absent.
Zevon has been my favorite musician for a long time and the fact that he's still not recognized by the HoF continues to get under my skin. I'm assuming you're a fellow Zevon fan. Do you have a favorite album? My top three are probably his self-titled album, My Ride's Here, and Bad Luck Streak at Dancing School.
*sigh* 2017 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominee list is out and once again, Warren Zevon is absent.
Zevon has been my favorite musician for a long time and the fact that he's still not recognized by the HoF continues to get under my skin. I'm assuming you're a fellow Zevon fan. Do you have a favorite album? My top three are probably his self-titled album, My Ride's Here, and Bad Luck Streak at Dancing School.
His self-title album and Excitable Boy are favorites.
I've been trying to catch up on new releases this year. I was surprised to see both Blackfoot and Third Eye Blind released albums this year. After listening to both...I'm glad one of them is still around.
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- Ross Valory was a huge influence on me when I was learning to play bass. Never realized he was re-stringing his bass with the bottom four of a five-string (eliminating the high G string entirely) to get that low sound. Put him with Steve Smith on drums and they were an amazing rhythm section.
- When Greg Rollie left I figured they were going to have a real weak spot on keys...enter Jonathan Cain from The Babys and their songwriting took an amazing leap. There's a reason Escape and Frontiers are the albums they are.
- There are many pretenders (the new guy is really REALLY good!) but there's only one Steve Perry.
For all that? Yeah, love 'em or hate 'em, they need to be in the hall...
Nothing's Shocking was a very good album; thier best album. I'm going to have to go back and listen to it, time to pull out the CD case.
Meanwhile, a band that hit it nearly at the same time, just before the Seattle/grunge scene happened, that has been eligible to be nominated the past three times now, but hasn't been, is Pavement. They lasted the span of the 90s, with Stephen Malkmus continuing on a bit better than Farrell did, but they also reunited, but not to make new music, but rather to perform live. Pavement had, arguably, four amazing albums in a row, with the fifth and final being their least loved by most.
As I said before though, I'm really upset by Nine Inch Nails not getting nominated. They/He (Trent Reznor) were nominated the previous two times, but passed over for induction.
Bummed at NIN's and Pavement's not being acknowledged. Looking forward in future years for Radiohead and Blur.
I really hope Yes, ELO, and Pearl Jam get in this time. And The Cars are another that would be good to see get in.
I think Blur may be in the same category as Pavement. I think Albarn is much more likely to get in with Gorillaz than with Blur. But Radiohead is a no-brainer. They'll probably get in on their first ballot.
I mean Thom Yorke is a hack and Radiohead was never that great
The critics love the Blur. They are not my favorite band, but all it takes is adoration from the critics.
Tupac...
I have listened and enjoyed Tupac's music; he created some of the best songs in the history of rap. I know his importance in culture and place in hip-hop iconography. I'm not arguing against him going in.
But....
You know what he never did, make a great album. He made
somea lot of down right terrible albums, especially after he "died".*runs away ducking the tomatoes* :)
Plus he made the gold standard of beef music (no disrespect to Ice Cube's No Vaseline but that one didn't age real well at all). I'm not sure how you recover from "You say your a player, but I ####### your wife".
I just scrolled through the whole list of past inductees. It's really kind of astounding some of the names that are absent. Zevon is in good company.
So much amazing music.
Boys becoming men, men becoming wolves...
I found 30 Rock on Spotify.
I heard that he and QTip patched things up and did some recording before he died.