Yeah, I thought Episode 10 should have been in the top 4 or 3 episodes. It's where everything seemed to sort of click for me. I don't dislike this show. It's not wowing me like others but I do enjoy it enough to continue to watch and see where it goes.
Ugh... This was really it for me. I'm done until there's proof this show got better. We got an average episode with all the usual weaknesses, and no answers masquerading as big reveals. Like we didn't already know something was up with Coulson's resurrection. All that's different is that he know too. We still have no answer to the only question that matters, "why?" I mean are we to think that Nick Fury just couldn't go on without his little buddy?
And Shield takes down Centipede facilities all over the world, grabbed high profile members and yet no one knows anything about them, like what their motivation is or what true threat they present. And does anyone really care about Mike Petersen?
I am in awe of just how much this show gets wrong in a general storytelling sense.
Ugh... This was really it for me. I'm done until there's proof this show got better. We got an average episode with all the usual weaknesses, and no answers masquerading as big reveals. Like we didn't already know something was up with Coulson's resurrection. All that's different is that he know too. We still have no answer to the only question that matters, "why?" I mean are we to think that Nick Fury just couldn't go on without his little buddy?
And Shield takes down Centipede facilities all over the world, grabbed high profile members and yet no one knows anything about them, like what their motivation is or what true threat they present. And does anyone really care about Mike Petersen?
I am in awe of just how much this show gets wrong in a general storytelling sense.
I've only heard about it, so I don't know how it was presented, but it seems like they're trying to avoid making him a LMD. Since fans have been saying that's how they'll bring him back long before the series even aired. Do you think its been DC Monarch-ed?
Ugh... This was really it for me. I'm done until there's proof this show got better. We got an average episode with all the usual weaknesses, and no answers masquerading as big reveals. Like we didn't already know something was up with Coulson's resurrection. All that's different is that he know too. We still have no answer to the only question that matters, "why?" I mean are we to think that Nick Fury just couldn't go on without his little buddy?
And Shield takes down Centipede facilities all over the world, grabbed high profile members and yet no one knows anything about them, like what their motivation is or what true threat they present. And does anyone really care about Mike Petersen?
I am in awe of just how much this show gets wrong in a general storytelling sense.
I've only heard about it, so I don't know how it was presented, but it seems like they're trying to avoid making him a LMD. Since fans have been saying that's how they'll bring him back long before the series even aired. Do you think its been DC Monarch-ed?
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I'd say that they never intended to have him be an LMD (probably because it was expected and makes an easy red herring) and that the revelations as to what really happened will eventually lead into... something. But to what? I don't know or care at this point.
Frankly, I don't know what this show is about. The team still doesn't have a real purpose except to serve the plot of that week's episode and the viewer is left completely in the dark as to anyone's motivations or goals. Every mystery that's been "answered" has been done in the least satisfying way possible.
May's backstory is revealed expositionally, with no bearing on the events currently happening? After weeks of holding back?
The secret of Skye's parentage is revealed to two of the main characters hidden from view from the audience? And we're told that she can never know, but are never told why?
And Coulson's resurrection... After weeks of speculation, we are shown what we already know, He didn't really go to Tahiti. But what we saw was so absurd that it could literally have been anything. You could have had monkeys in fireman's uniforms chanting voodoo while waving tamborines over Coulson's corpse, had Ron Glass walk in use the same exact dialogue and nothing about the scene would have been signifigantly altered storywise.
They seem more concerned with peeling back layers of Coulson's skull than layers of the mysteries they've laid out. Either they weren't particularly interesting to begin with (Agent May's) or they keep the viewer completely in the dark when revealing just one salient detail wouldn't ruin the mystery but instead create suspense and tension.
Instead we have one mystery that's already been solved by half the team, who've decided they're keeping to themselves. Literally, all they have to do is tell Skye the answer and that storyline is over. A season arc that could be ended with a 5 minute conversation. But if they told the audience why its important to keep it a secret, then when details of that secret begin to emerge we will understand the threat and there would actually be an air of suspense.
And another mystery that's only one by virtue of a complete lack of details. No one knows anything, and no one knows anyone who really knows something about Coulson. If Centipede knew one fact about this story that we didn't and that was revealed to Coulson (and the audience), this would have made for a fine episode. It simultaneously would have increased the threat of Centipede as an organization capable of going head-to-head with Shield, and propelled this other story forward a notch. Instead we are essentially in the same place, only now Coulson is going to scowl a little more.
The show is so inherently flawed in its execution that, as much as I want a Marvel show to succeed, I can't keep watching this one. None of these issues have anything to do with the also valid concern that they've done almost nothing to add to the MCU. Its not something that can be excused because of budget. They are simply not telling a coherent story in an engaging way.
I'm........not sure what the heck I watched. I don't get the reasoning for Coulson's resurrection and I know that my Marvel lore is a bit......limited to what I've read from the 80s and the 90s but is there something that explains what the heck was going on from the comics? As I'm not a huge fan of Skye, her parents identities is probably the least thing I care about but I swear to Asgard that if May winds up being her mom, I'm going to be very disappointed.
The episode as a whole was pretty good. I wonder if the clairvoyant will gather Blizzard(from last night), Gravitron, and any other superpowered baddie locked away and use them Against SHIELD.
I'm........not sure what the heck I watched. I don't get the reasoning for Coulson's resurrection and I know that my Marvel lore is a bit......limited to what I've read from the 80s and the 90s but is there something that explains what the heck was going on from the comics? As I'm not a huge fan of Skye, her parents identities is probably the least thing I care about but I swear to Asgard that if May winds up being her mom, I'm going to be very disappointed.
Did you watch it last night? She's now an object of unknown origin...alien I'd assume.
So assuming Skye will realize she has powers I'm beginning to think she'll be like The Drummer from Planetary. She already has a way too easy time with technology and different information systems.
Well, that was this past week's episode(the article you link to is from before Christmas) and Blizzard is just like k e Gravitron...no powers until the very end..and the never actually call him Blizzard.
Well, that was this past week's episode(the article you link to is from before Christmas) and Blizzard is just like k e Gravitron...no powers until the very end..and the never actually call him Blizzard.
yeah that why it was an overstatement. I think the 2nd half of this season is better than the first half. Using the Netflix scale it gets three stars out of five. The characters are still pretty 2 dementional but i don't have any suggestions on how to fix it apart from starting over.
This just in: Mike Peterson to be revealed as Deathlok. I didn't see that one coming!
Although from how it looks to play out, this version of Deathlok will probably only have a thin resemblance to the Deathlok I know from the comics. The Deathlok I know is from the future (maybe that's why the "Clairvoyant" knows everything... because he is from the Future). I wonder if the show will even refer to Mike Peterson as "Deathlok"?
Fingers crossed Mike will have some witty dialog banter with his 'puter.
This just in: Mike Peterson to be revealed as Deathlok. I didn't see that one coming!
Although from how it looks to play out, this version of Deathlok will probably only have a thin resemblance to the Deathlok I know from the comics. The Deathlok I know is from the future (maybe that's why the "Clairvoyant" knows everything... because he is from the Future). I wonder if the show will even refer to Mike Peterson as "Deathlok"?
Fingers crossed Mike will have some witty dialog banter with his 'puter.
Nah, I doubt it. I don't think marvel would waste a high profile baddie on the TV show. I like the theory of the Clairvoyant being from the future; more likely some Marvel Time Traveller further down the list... Zarkko, The tomorrow Man, or maybe Judas Traveller?
Maybe they will tie this into the movies and pull in the Time Gem? I'm secretly holding out for King Solomon's Brass Frogs.
I think thats the best episode of the season (what is Joss' deal with trains?) and the 2nd half of the season has been noticably better than the first half but i don't know if it is enough to redeem the show.
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http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/official-stan-lee-appear-marvels-668771
Ugh... This was really it for me. I'm done until there's proof this show got better. We got an average episode with all the usual weaknesses, and no answers masquerading as big reveals. Like we didn't already know something was up with Coulson's resurrection. All that's different is that he know too. We still have no answer to the only question that matters, "why?" I mean are we to think that Nick Fury just couldn't go on without his little buddy?
And Shield takes down Centipede facilities all over the world, grabbed high profile members and yet no one knows anything about them, like what their motivation is or what true threat they present. And does anyone really care about Mike Petersen?
I am in awe of just how much this show gets wrong in a general storytelling sense.
M
Frankly, I don't know what this show is about. The team still doesn't have a real purpose except to serve the plot of that week's episode and the viewer is left completely in the dark as to anyone's motivations or goals. Every mystery that's been "answered" has been done in the least satisfying way possible.
May's backstory is revealed expositionally, with no bearing on the events currently happening? After weeks of holding back?
The secret of Skye's parentage is revealed to two of the main characters hidden from view from the audience? And we're told that she can never know, but are never told why?
And Coulson's resurrection... After weeks of speculation, we are shown what we already know, He didn't really go to Tahiti. But what we saw was so absurd that it could literally have been anything. You could have had monkeys in fireman's uniforms chanting voodoo while waving tamborines over Coulson's corpse, had Ron Glass walk in use the same exact dialogue and nothing about the scene would have been signifigantly altered storywise.
They seem more concerned with peeling back layers of Coulson's skull than layers of the mysteries they've laid out. Either they weren't particularly interesting to begin with (Agent May's) or they keep the viewer completely in the dark when revealing just one salient detail wouldn't ruin the mystery but instead create suspense and tension.
Instead we have one mystery that's already been solved by half the team, who've decided they're keeping to themselves. Literally, all they have to do is tell Skye the answer and that storyline is over. A season arc that could be ended with a 5 minute conversation. But if they told the audience why its important to keep it a secret, then when details of that secret begin to emerge we will understand the threat and there would actually be an air of suspense.
And another mystery that's only one by virtue of a complete lack of details. No one knows anything, and no one knows anyone who really knows something about Coulson. If Centipede knew one fact about this story that we didn't and that was revealed to Coulson (and the audience), this would have made for a fine episode. It simultaneously would have increased the threat of Centipede as an organization capable of going head-to-head with Shield, and propelled this other story forward a notch. Instead we are essentially in the same place, only now Coulson is going to scowl a little more.
The show is so inherently flawed in its execution that, as much as I want a Marvel show to succeed, I can't keep watching this one. None of these issues have anything to do with the also valid concern that they've done almost nothing to add to the MCU. Its not something that can be excused because of budget. They are simply not telling a coherent story in an engaging way.
The episode as a whole was pretty good. I wonder if the clairvoyant will gather Blizzard(from last night), Gravitron, and any other superpowered baddie locked away and use them Against SHIELD.
Did you watch it last night? She's now an object of unknown origin...alien I'd assume.
Please don't use True Blood as a blueprint.
Otherwise it was good, but not my favorite.
We continue to move toward The Winter Soldier.
newsarama.com/20082-agents-of-s-h-i-e-l-d-getting-asgardian-guest-star.html
http://www.uproxx.com/gammasquad/2013/12/agents-s-h-e-l-d-will-finally-see-proper-supervillain/
Man, this show is a hot mess, but I can't help watching it.
Spoilers for upcoming shows.
Fingers crossed Mike will have some witty dialog banter with his 'puter.
Regardless, I think this could be very cool.
I like the theory of the Clairvoyant being from the future; more likely some Marvel Time Traveller further down the list... Zarkko, The tomorrow Man, or maybe Judas Traveller?
Maybe they will tie this into the movies and pull in the Time Gem? I'm secretly holding out for King Solomon's Brass Frogs.
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2014/01/23/deathlok-headed-for-marvels-agents-of-shield/
I haven't been in this thread for a little while so that was a really cool reveal. What did you think?